Finding Faith and Healing Against All Odds: Eve's Remarkable Journey Ep 63

In this moving episode, I sit down with my friend and client, Eve Northcote, to discuss her incredible journey of faith, healing, and overcoming the odds. 

Diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given an incurable prognosis, Eve’s story is a powerful testimony of resilience and hope. 

Inside this episode we discuss: 

> Eve's life-changing diagnosis and the initial shock it brought.
 

> How her faith has given her the strength to defy the odds.
 

> How she is using integrative medicine to heal her body.
 

> Key supportive relationships and connections that have emerged. 

> Supporting my own Dad through a similar diagnosis and how we draw hope and strength from other people's experiences

> Practical advice and encouragement for others facing challenges and obstacles and how to maintain faith, trust & hope

 ... and more.

Whether you’re navigating your own trials or seeking encouragement, this episode will stir your faith and inspire you to trust that there is always a way through.

People mentioned in this episode: 

Sarah Vickers (SV Holistic) 

Dr Amber Lynch (Centered Health) 

Dr Patterson Stark (Stark Health)

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Hi, it's Annabelle. Welcome back to the Steep Your Soul podcast. 2025. It's wonderful to have you here with me. I have got such a moving conversation coming up for you inside this episode. I've personally felt so impacted by this conversation ever since we've recorded it. And what I'm about to share with you is a conversation with my client and friend. Genevieve or Eve Northcott. I had the privilege of sitting down with her to discuss a journey that she's been on that is nothing short of remarkable.. Last minute, the stars aligned. And we were able to meet in person and sit on my sofa in my living room, drink tea and discuss this journey that she's been on. I know this episode is going to uplift you. It's going to give you encouragement that no matter what obstacles You might be facing whether they be in your health Or in your career something in a relationship or a financial obstacle I know that this conversation is going to give you this encouragement that there is always a way through Before we get into that if you're new here, welcome to the podcast. There's lots here for you So when you're done with this episode Take a look through some of the other episodes and just see what's jumping out at you. Subscribe to the podcast, rate it, and even better, leave a review if these episodes have helped you. It really helps me get these episodes out to more people so they can be a blessing and a help to more people. I've got some more episodes coming out for the podcast, in the coming weeks and months. a lot of what I'm going to be sharing is going to feel quite personal. It's an insight into faith and the way I see the world. I hope that there'll be a real encouragement to you. So keep checking back for more episodes that will be coming out in the coming weeks. These past three months since the beginning of December have had me focused mainly on my one on one work. It feels like that time has completely flown. I've been pretty much fully booked these past three months and my one on one work. So thank you so much for your support. If you share my work with other people, if you share these episodes with others, I'm really grateful that you do that. And as I said earlier, it just helps me reach more people, and support them and help them in their life. I recently wrapped a program called The Clarity Code, and I'm finishing up with my last round of a program called Working Lightly. And if you're interested in checking out any of those offerings, you can find the links to those in the description of this episode. Okay, back to the episode. In October 2024, Eve was given a devastating diagnosis, stage 4 cancer, with the prognosis that it was incurable. But instead of succumbing to fear, she made a choice. A choice to trust in something greater than the limitations that she was told she faced. And what has followed is a powerful story of courage and faith and resilience and healing. And this isn't just a conversation about cancer. It's about the power of faith. It's about the importance of integrative medicine and the extraordinary healing that can happen when we trust fully in something beyond ourselves. As I said, I've been so impacted by her journey. I feel so proud of her, proud to know her, and I'm so proud of her strength. It's been a real privilege to bring you this conversation. And I don't know, no matter what challenges you're facing. This episode is going to uplift you. It's going to strengthen your faith and remind you that there is always a path forward No matter the odds. Let's get into the episode I'm really happy to have you here, and I'm really happy to have my guest today on the podcast. We are here drinking tea in my living room. So wherever you are, I hope that you are comfortable that you're going to park up with a cup of tea or something tasty to drink and join us for this Wonderful conversation with my friend and client, Eve Northcott, and she has a really personal story to share with us today, something that is Yeah, truly remarkable that I think is going to be such a blessing to you if you join us for this conversation today. So welcome Eve, thank you for being here and yeah, for being willing to share your story with us. Oh, thanks Annabelle. It's so nice to be here with you on your couch. I know. It's like we were Zooming. So it's so nice to be here with you in person and I guess it feels a bit crazy to be sharing your My story, but it feels really right and I'm so excited to be able to do this with you. So thank you. Maybe as way of like some background we'll share with people. You and I met in 2023 about halfway through the year, July, August. We were introduced to each other by a friend of yours, a client of mine. And you came into one of my programs. And you've been on the podcast before sharing like what that experience was and so if anyone wants to go back and have a listen you may even remember listening to Eve on the podcast in an episode sometime in that year. Yeah that's right and I guess I came to you I think The episode we've already recorded was really around my health and how I was operating and living and working up to that point, but yeah, I was pretty burnt out and had been working my body pretty hard. I'd been looking after the body, but I hadn't been looking after. My physical, my spiritual or emotional side and have very much learned a lot about that recently. But yeah, no, it's been quite a journey since then, but I'm so pleased we did that podcast. It's really cool, as you said, like a nice time stamp of where I was then and what's happened now, where we are now. Maybe that's a good place to start, perhaps you want to talk about, um, October last year was a huge month for you. Why don't you tell us a bit about what happened in October and perhaps some of the background that was leading up to the news that you learnt in that month. Sure. Through July, August, September, I just kept getting sicker. I had no energy. Like I was someone who went from running and biking and walking and I've been able to do lots, to the point I couldn't actually drive anymore, and we live remotely on a farm at Mount Lyford. So it's two hours north of Christchurch. So I was quite isolated, stuck there, and I keep getting awful stomach cramps agony, and so much pressure in my tummy. I was just vomiting all night I just vomit nine times. So over that night, just like every 40 minutes until enough pressure was released in a way that I'd be able to finally get some sleep. So it was a super disruptive few months, super unsettling, knowing something was so wrong in my body. But I was just really struggling to get through my local GP. Took a long time to get through there. She's no longer a local GP. So my formal complaint was successful. But it was, yeah, an awful time. I think. Yeah, I started off having these bouts of stomach cramps and vomiting like every sort of three months and then it got more and more frequent and eventually managed to get a referral for a colonoscopy, which I had on, I think it was the 17th of October in the afternoon, went in for that. And yeah, I remember seeing on the screen, because they see me conscious. I was like, oh my goodness. I said out loud, that does not look good. And yeah, an hour and a half later, I was told I had a tumour in my bowel that looked like cancer. And the most wonderful oncologist, ah, not oncologist, sorry I don't even know what he is, a gastroenterologist. yeah, phoned back six o'clock that night. He had arranged for a CT scan the following morning. He had arranged for me to see a surgeon. That afternoon, so literally Friday, went and had a CT scan in the morning, 2 o'clock that afternoon, I was sitting in the surgeon's office and he said, yeah, we can see I think it was about four and a half centimetre tumour. To be honest, I've forgotten, just let some of the finer details go. It was about a four and a half centimetre tumour in my bowel, so on the right side of my bowel. So yeah, he was like here's your options. We can either leave it. We'll drop it out. We'll just get it in a bucket. Surgeons are a pretty special breed. And I'll get it in a bucket. And so yeah, I left his office at 4 o'clock. Booked for surgery the following Thursday. And the results had come back. They'd biopsied the tumour during the colonoscopy. So it came back positive it was cancer. And they could also see some of my lymph nodes lighting up. Through my abdomen and chest on the CT scan. So yeah, went home and had this, yeah, a wake up, trying to comprehend what was coming. And it was a pretty scary time. Yeah. What was that like for you when they said, it's cancer what was going on in your mind when you got that diagnosis? I think I just, I probably went into okay, let's, what's the next step let's just focus on what needs to happen next, surgeries, what needs to happen next don't think beyond there, so it was just focusing on we've just got to get to the surgery and this week leading up to the surgery, it was just focused on just getting in the garden, sitting in the sun, cups of tea, good food. Mum came up and stayed with me. So we cried and we gardened and just did little things. And it was, yeah, it was so lovely having her at home with me. And my husband was like busy trying to get the farm. Sorted so that he could essentially step away for two or three weeks and just not have to think about that So he was pretty busy. So we're both like very much and just get things organized But it was really scary because they had to take out another Further up my abdomen like a bigger Lymph node about two and a half centimeters, so they couldn't do just keyhole. So I've actually got a 20cm scar up my tummy. So they had to really open me up, and that was horrible, thinking, oh my goodness, I'm going to be lying on this table so opened up with two surgeons, and, yeah, but it's yeah, that was the biggest part, was just I remember the morning of the surgery. I was just bouncing around singing. I was just saying, I'm willing to try and just keep going. And she stayed with a friend in Christchurch just so that, wasn't with family. So it was just she was just super yep, see you later. Yeah. Thank you. She was just, yeah, she really was great and just held the space in just the right way for us. But yeah, I had, I was in hospital for six days and they, yeah, all of a sudden, you're out of surgery and you've got to get up. And they really gotta get moving and yeah, it was pretty, it was ghastly because when you chop out, like they took out 38 centimetres of my bowel. So a big chunk of, in my appendix. And so it takes a bit for. your body to recognize it's missing a bit and to go, okay, sweet. We've got a new join in here. And yeah, it was pretty, oh, it was a few ghastly parts to all of that, but it all feels like a very distant memory. And I got out of hospital and a couple of nights in Christchurch at auntie's house and then got home and it was great once I got home because then I could just. I just, I got into the garden. So I pretty quickly got moving and just being able to get down and crawl around the garden and pull weeds out of the veggies was great. And that was just good to earth and Yeah, connect to the ground. Yeah, just not think about anything else. And that was really probably the coping mechanism was just to do that piece, just to heal, focus on the healing part. such an enormous thing to go through and it seemed like at the time when it was occurring in real time, so much was happening all at once, didn't it? Like it all just, you got this huge news broken over your life and then it was great cause they moved quickly, which was really good, wasn't it? But it all just happened so quickly and then it was like you were left, okay. Now I've got to heal and what are the next steps for me. So what did they outline for you after the surgery, you get home and you're healing then you meet with your oncologist and what were they setting out as the next steps for you from there? Yeah. So I had about a week after being at home, went back in to see the surgeon and, He had a quick look at my scar. He just, I walked into the office and he's oh you look well. I was like, yeah, I've been walking like two or three K a day. I've been like keeping fit. Keeping moving gently and he had the results from the from, yeah, they sent everything off to get tested. So for the pathology report had come back. So he talked us through That they had taken out 83 lymph nodes. You've got thousands in your body, but 83 is a lot to take out. Often with bowel cancer patients, they usually don't take, 10 to 15 is doing a good job. He took 83 out. So he took lots out, and I had cancer in 72 of them. That means Stage 4. So I didn't really know what stage 4 had meant because we just stayed off Google. So I was like, oh sweet, okay, I've done a really good job of this. I've got cancer well. So I just yeah, walked out of his office feeling a bit numb. So I went to Flo and Frankie and bought a couple of new dresses for the weddings coming up. Did some Christmas present shopping and we went home. And then it was a week later. I came back into Christchurch to see the oncologist and our head game, when I say our, George and I had really been just thinking about, okay, what's next, what's the next information we're needing, and we're like, okay, we're expecting to come to this oncology appointment and for her to outline a plan around chemo, or what medicine was being, going to be offered, because our surgeon had just said, or my surgeon had just said, Oh, I'll give you a bit of chemo to mop it all up. It just sounded like a bit of weed spray. It was all going to be quick and easy. And we were expecting, yeah, coming to see the oncologist, a plan about the next steps. And we also want to talk about IVF and fertility preservation and things we needed to think about there. So we probably had, we'd gone in with a preconceived idea about what. We had an expectation and it was super unsettling. She essentially said, you understand you have stage four. I said, yes. She's what does that mean? And I explained, I've done a good job of it, but yeah, we'll get it sorted. And then that's when she said, look, stage four your cancer is considered incurable. We can't cure you with medicine. And I was like, okay, that's a lot to get head round. And, so I was like, okay, we moved on from that. I was like, okay, the next thing on my, but she was offering chemo. I was like, okay, cool. I was like, the next thing I want to talk about is, fertility preservation. And she was super sideswiped by that. I remember you saying that, yeah. Yeah, she was like, really put her on the back foot. And then she was talking to us about, we need to think about the ethics of that. You need to think about how long you're going to be around for. And like George and I got married in March. We're like both early 30s, we were planning to be having babies this year. It was like the next stage of your life. It was yeah. And here she was talking to us about why are you thinking about bothering doing fertility preservation, so There was a lot to think about, and yeah, we chatted away, and then we, essentially, she gave us some information and just left it at that, so she just really wanted us to understand what stage four meant. So obviously we just got in the car and just drove for two hours home straight away in silence, and we just got home and had a big cry, really talked to family, and it was just, it was so hard to comprehend, because I remember hearing the words. But I couldn't fathom the words of what I felt inside, and my inside, I was like, no, I'm gonna be fine What are you saying? This is not curable. It was just so hard to reconcile. And so then, yeah, anyway, we're like pretty upset, obviously, and then went home a couple days later down to my parents near Timaru and I opened a letter that she had actually written, so all the communication gets sent to you. So she'd written, the oncologist had written a letter back to the surgeon, and it had been sent to me. So it was like record of our conversation. And I read it, and it was a death letter, essentially. She'd written on paper that My, I have an, I have incurable stage four bowel cancer, this is a lot for Eve and George to get their heads around, but they're interested in preserving fertility and writing all this down, and it's just a letter of like, just condemning me. It was just no hope. And it was just so shocking. I think I've there'd been a few things happen to lead up to that which had really shocked me about Western medicine. Like the surgeon hadn't even Touched me after when I went back to see him ten days after the surgery didn't even touch my tummy or ask if I was doing a poo yet It's all pretty key things after you've had a third of your bowel chopped out. You know when I sent home Like they just said oh don't eat a big steak dinner was all the surgeon And the nurses said. And then the Bowel Cancer New Zealand page information pamphlet they'd given me was saying, your first four weeks, just have soft foods, but you can have pastries and white bread and all this stuff. It was like Crazy. Whoa, this is crazy, Yeah. That feeds cancer. This is all terrible for your immune system, which you need to be, like, you need to be supporting your immune system to come into gear. So then those things happen, and then just that Just not being offered hope. It was just so crazy. So that letter really knocked me. And I spent the weekend at home walking around like a bit of a zombie with incurable on my forehead. I felt like I had it tattooed on my forehead, incurable. And it was really I'd never felt so in such a low place before, and I didn't like it. And so naturally we had already been working together and you were just such a, literally God sent over that weekend. And I just so vividly yeah, remember you sending me a wee voice note, just said a preach over me speaking the word of God over me. Yeah. And I just, very early on, I just, after that experience, in particular over that weekend, I just, my intuitions started to kick in a little bit. And that I knew instinctively that to get through this, I was going to have to do it differently. And it made total sense to me why I had cancer. I could see why. All the things that, beneficiaries of things, like I had Giardia. Seven years before in Argentina, which I'd fought off with my own immune system. And, I'd had all sorts of issues with IBS and dietary things since then. So my immune system had been suppressed, and then I'd had really stressful job. Been on flight and flight, fight or flight for a couple of years. And I just knew that my immune system had been so low. And then I guess later learned about the impact of the COVID vaccine. And that was still in my body. So it just, it made, really made real sense to me pretty early on, like why I had cancer. And so I just knew that I had to move through it. I was gonna have to do things differently. And it was about that point in time where, you were speaking the word of God over me. End. I'd had a relation, not so much a relation, I'd had exposure, I'd have had a religious upbringing. I'd gone to church as a child a few times a year and been to a religious school. So I'd actually been to chapel three times a week for five years. But I wouldn't have said I had a personal relationship with God. But I remember you saying to me, God has a plan for my body. There's a plan for my life. He's not going to waste it. And I was like, you're right. And you said you just, you need to surrender, you need to hand over and trust in God's plan for you. And it just, it instantly clicked and resonated with me because I knew I couldn't do this in my own strength. Like I, I'd always, had pride in my mindset, my get everything done so positive, I can always do more, make things happen. I had thought I had an amazing mindset, but I realized, I just knew that my mindset wasn't going to get me through this and that it was My mindset was through everything in my own strength, and I needed to surrender, and I needed to hand over my body to a higher energy, to God. And so I started doing that week. I just, I literally just clicked and did it. And the other thing that you did that weekend, the two things you did, firstly speak. The word of God over me, and then secondly, you sent me a video, a 10 minute TED Talk about, TED Talk snippet about turkey tail mushrooms. So I'm a real microbe geek. Like I did soil science. It was like an ag degree. It was my love language, and you just spoke to me in my love language, and I remember sitting there in the Mitre Ashburton whilst George was buying something on the way home, and I watched the video and I was like wow This is so cool. This is exciting And I was like no of course I'm incurable Western medicine doesn't have all the tools Mother Nature does. She's got turkey tail mushrooms. There's so many other amazing plants and organisms on this Earth that will help my body heal. And so that just gave me a real sense of purpose. And I think it was at that point, which was about three weeks after the surgery, which I was like, no, I can take control now of my pathway and my healing. That was super empowering. I started to bring a lot of peace. So then, yeah, it was a pretty What happened next is pretty awesome in the following week. Just the fact that we were connected back in 2023 and, at that point you had no idea what was ahead for you and, it just really shows like the hand of God over your life because. I could speak into your situation, not from a personal experience, but from an experience of supporting my dad, who four years ago was diagnosed with an incurable cancer and he was given six months to live. They offered him no treatment. There was nothing available for him. So he was told, okay Basically go home get your affairs in order and come back to us when your pain is too much and we will give you medicine for your pain and So that really sent our family on a journey of you know we weren't willing to just write dad off and he wasn't just a Case in a file In front of a doctor, he was our dad. We weren't willing to write him off. We knew that God had a plan for him and wanted to see him healed and so it was really through that faith that we've seen so many doors open for him since then. So he's, yeah, four and a bit years, four and a half years on in that journey. And he's not completely cured of his cancer, but he has such a great quality of life. He works still, he rides his bike, he's away for the weekend all of the time, he fishes up in the sounds. He is. He is, an active grandparent, he lives a life like anyone would who doesn't have cancer and that in and of itself was just such an incredible testimony that he, God's really opened up incredible pathways for us as a family. Things that were never on the table suddenly were on the table. And there's just been lots of different things that he's led us through, both kind of from a Western medicine perspective, but also from a more natural perspective. And we've combined both of those with him. For me it was faith has been such a huge part of our journey with dad because without having that faith and knowing who God is and what is possible through him I don't believe that dad would still be alive. It's through that faith has just been. literally life giving for him and has given him life that he was told he wouldn't have. I had a relationship with God prior to that, but it's like completely cemented my faith. Watching God move in like inextricably small ways that seemed so Maybe immaterial to some people and also just monumental, huge ways, things, that we could never control or do in our own strength. God's done that for us and done that for him and his health and for our family. When you came to me with that news I really felt that God brought us together for a reason because I'd been through and was going through that with dad and knew that I could, yeah, use that faith and just, yeah, the faith that I have gained and that has been strengthened in me through seeing the hand of God over dad and his life. I knew that I could offer that to you in that time when You felt so afraid and worried and felt as though there was no hope or there weren't any more options. What an incredible gift, like that, yeah, God's moved in our family in that way that I could offer that to you. I feel so grateful. It's been such a challenging, at times, very stressful journey with Dad. It's had high points and it's had very low points as well. But God always uses things for our good and there's been so many good things that have come out of it for our family as a whole, in terms of a lot of healing for our family. A lot of things for dad personally, but yeah, God will always use things for our good. And I really felt that so strongly when you shared that news with me that I could offer you that faith because of how faithful he'd been for dad. I know, it's just, it's amazing, isn't it? It's just an extraordinary divine connection that we'd already been working together, that you knew me really well, and that you'd gone through this extraordinary lived experience from a faith perspective, but also in terms of some of the practical things that your dad has done, to he's integrated into his life. His healing plan. Yes. Oh, it just provided so much inspiration and hope. I've never met your dad, but it's just extraordinary when you have, and you're in such a dark place going, Oh my goodness, how do I, what's the next step out of this hole? And here you were, reaching in, speaking over me, sharing your dad's experience. You just had so much hope and faith. You knew that there was a plan for me. You believed in the possibility that I could heal. And it's just, you just need one person who can believe and open these little doors and then all of a sudden things just, I don't know, it's so hard to really articulate just how things just exploded. Yeah, from there. Yeah! It's the best way and just you were my first divine connection, but then there was just, over that following week, so many things happened which just, I think, cemented your faith, but really just helped propel mine. I just couldn't believe all the things that were happening when I sat back, surrendered and handed over to God, and looked for the doors that he was opening. And all these doors just kept opening so fast, and they were all just the perfect doors I needed to walk through extraordinary things happened in the space of a week. Like, all the people that I needed for my healing journey all turned up that week. Some of them weren't taking on new patients, some of them had no more appointments before Christmas, but it all just happened. Yes. Oh, just so blessed, it's extraordinary. Exactly. Yeah. And not something that you could have really orchestrated and strong armed your way into it. And I guess um, you've met. And God's brought people onto your path, people that have just been such incredible support and help to you that have helped also build that faith and that hope and, you've worked with Sarah Vickers, our mutual friend, my friend and client as well, and she's just so incredible and I know she's been a huge support to you as well, like I know there's been other people too that have been able to say, look, we really believe in your ability to heal. Oh, a hundred percent. Sarah has been incredible. She actually very early on, like back in August when I was struggling with the GP, like Sarah said, I'm worried there's something blocking your bowel. You need to keep pushing. And it was just wonderful having her. Advocating for my health, I saw her to try and make it happen but it was just so great to have her support and that it's just not all my head she validated what was going on in my body and, obviously right through the surgery and lead up to it and post it we'll keep in contact lots and just obviously, alongside you offering hope and belief that I can heal, she was right there too saying, okay. I know you can heal from this. Here's why. Here's how. And yeah, that, that week after being told I was incurable, yeah, I caught up with Sarah and was in a place then to really okay, what's next? And we met and she was able to I don't know, she just, she reached out to her mentor, this amazing man, Dr. Patterson Stark in Christchurch, and Patterson is in his early 70s and looking to slow down on the client front. He's only taking a few referrals. But Patterson, when he was 34, I think he had about 10 days to live. He was just riddled with cancer. But he's just had an extraordinary life of learning around oncology and medicine and integrative medicine and works with some on credible projects and groups and people around the world and I soak her up with all the latest science and Sarah was talking to him about me and he said I'll take her on. That's not why Sarah had phoned, she'd asked phone to get some advice from him about what she should be recommending to me and he said I'll take her on. And so that is just an extraordinary like divine connection that again I'd been working with Sarah for a couple of years, she would been on this path together and then. All of a sudden I'd be so blessed that Patterson would take me on so lucky. And that's been an extraordinary journey working with him and experiencing, oh, just the incredible kindness of his, yeah, his style of medicine. Just, yeah, he's a healer, he's there to, he's, I think Western medicine's gone so far from doctors are there now to prescribe medications, they're not there as healers and it was, yeah, the first time I met with him I took George and we definitely three hours, did a full examination, everything. And I was like, wow, usually you only ever have 15 minutes with a GP or a doctor. Yeah, it's been, that again, that all just happened that week after. And you'd also recommended I work with your kinesiologist Dr. Amber Lynch. And again, I phoned her up help, I've got cancer. I'm incurable. And she reshuffled her diary and was just so empathetic to, I sent, I shared with her and Patterson the letter from the oncologist and they were just, and Sarah, and they were just so devastated. I think I shared it with you too. Just so devastated with, just, there is no hope offered. And so yeah, it's been such a fun journey working with. And then learning all about the energy fields in my body and going deeper into what I'm holding on to and it just all makes total sense now. I've learned lots about energy in your body, like why I've got cancer where I do. And so it's just, yeah, it all came together. I continued working with you. You became my guru, my spiritual leader, my greatest champion. And yeah, it was just incredible just all of a sudden within a week. I had a well rounded healing team of all the best people we could have, and it was just extraordinary, and we were off. And then we added it to that, ended up doing IVF and just the kindness of the doctors and nurses going through the IVF process. And, wow, God blessed us. We were extremely successful. One round of IVF superhuman fertility levels. And it was only one month after surgery. They harvested over 20 eggs. And, yeah. It was amazing. We've got six babies on ice. They're one week old. Little embryos. George says there's five good ones. There's one that's a bit smaller. So we've runt. But we'll take them. Yeah. And it was, yeah, it was just, yeah. Just so many blessings came. Our way in such a short period of time. It was just extraordinary. Just that's what I mean by I felt like faith exploding When I surrendered and handed over and God just opened all his pathways all the most perfect people For my healing journey with most extraordinary like lived experiences and and knowledge Just came on board and I just had to hold on Yeah Just maybe slightly backtracking a little bit, I wanna speak to, I know that there might be people who are listening to this who don't know God, don't have a relationship with God, maybe have had really negative experiences with religion which I know it's actually really common. A hundred percent. It's a really secular society that we live in. God really came into your life and revealed himself in a new way to you, in a fresh way to you. What do you feel maybe you needed to overcome or the work maybe he needed to shift within you to feel like you could surrender to him and have that kind of relationship with him that you've, cultivated since then? It was really interesting because I'd been through my work with you the last couple years have been really reflecting on The value and role of faith. Yeah. In community and in life. And so I was definitely very curious and open and been heading that way naturally. Yeah. But it was interesting that, that night I was told you're incurable and sent home. I woke up at 1. 30 in the morning and I thought, oh my goodness, how am I going to still my mind to be able to go back to sleep? And so I rolled over and snuggled up behind my husband and I just felt this amazing warm hand come between my shoulder blades and it was just this incredible like heat and intensity and it was saying, you are safe, nothing to worry about, go to sleep. And I just knew it was God. As crazy as it sounds, I just knew. And I just went to sleep. And it's brought this amazing reassurance. And I've tried to recreate that intensity. I've tried to put it in my mind. I've tried to recreate that moment. And I can't. That was him reassuring me. I'm here. I'm here, going to sleep. And so then It was then, like literally two days later that you really started to speak or preach to me and bring gold into our relationship. And so I just, I was, I knew it was safe. I needed to go in that direction. That was the right direction to go in. He had me, I could surrender and There was a plan. I needed trust. I needed to hand over. I couldn't control this. Yes, and that is like one of the lessons, isn't it, that Yeah, we're often in life we can be taken into experiences where we come to the end of ourselves. And I know that God's done that work in me, a number of times, but quite significantly. And I think it's only then when we really come to the end of ourselves that we do. Surrender and give up control, because I think as humans we do just wanna feel like we're in control. We've got the plans. Yeah. We've got the steps. We can do all the things and then we hold on tight. We grip on tight and we feel like, okay, as long as these balls stay up in the air I'm okay and I'm safe. But the thing about God is he he promises us a peace. That surpasses all understanding. A piece that doesn't make sense. A piece that's not based on circumstance. And that's the incredible peace and love of God is that I see that in Dad. There's times where he'll have a setback and, words will be spoken over him like, oh, there was a time last year where we started to see his cancer grow again. And so we said there were words spoken over him around, Okay, this is now looking like you've got X number of months left. And he would come back from those experiences. And would feel so deflated, so hopeless and what else can you do? Like we prayed over him and we couldn't muster that up. He couldn't muster up that hope and that peace and that strength within himself. Only God can do that for us. And so we would pray over him and it honestly does remarkable and get a text from. My sister being like, Oh, I've just been around to see dad this morning, new man, his face glowing joy in his heart, high energy and you'd ask, how are you dad? Yeah, I'm feeling great. Ready to fight it again. Yeah. You literally cannot muster that up on your own. And God doesn't ask us to do that. He's saying, come to me with all of your needs. Where you're worried, where you're anxious, where you're feeling uncertain, where you're feeling burdened. Give all of that to me and in exchange I will give you a piece that doesn't make sense given the circumstances. But that is the promise that he offers us. Yep, absolutely. And it's, oh, it's been the most extraordinary journey because like I have a scan next week and I'm going to find out in a couple of weeks time if they can see any cancer. Yeah. And Absolutely. I have managed, over the last few months, just to find absolute joy and pace. I'm just so confident there's going to be nothing to see. I trust I, I was listening to a great, wow, I've got really into binging sermons. And listened to one. in November and it said don't ask God for healing, thank God for healing. So I've just held the mindset I was healed on the 3rd of December and thank God every day for that healing and that this is just a, all the things I'm doing now are a pathway to, to higher health and to preparing my body to be a vessel for life, to be a mum, to carry me through a long happy life. And it's just been extraordinary. That, that, just, ah. When you surrender, amazing things happen, and I think, as a Taipei woman, and lots of Taipei women listen to this podcast, are your clients, it's such an extraordinarily hard thing to do, but when you, yeah, as you say, it's often not until you enter a really hard place that you do really surrender, but I look back and go, my goodness, how life could be so different if I was able to surrender and have that faith. And how I live and work and it's going to be so exciting to see how that faith carries me through life. And I think, I feel now, I am sinking so much truly into my feminine. I'm it's so lovely. And. My intuition is so strong now. I can hear what my body's saying. I can feel my, what my gut is telling me and I can listen to that. And, that's when you've got all your energy and your body flowing and part of that is just like, handing over. And naturally like being a science brain. I went and found all the science about this. Went and found, all the research around. Um, actually what happens in your body when you are praying or meditating, what happens in terms of your energy fields. Yes. If you are praying or meditating regularly, like every day, you emit more light. Because humans are 70 percent water, so we actually physically emit more light. So this is not just something, you're not just talking about a god, we're talking about high energy and that energy is scientifically proven. So I know there's lots of lots of women listening to this, but probably trying to get your heads around some of those concepts and what we're talking about. Yeah, I went and found the science. Yeah, it's really fascinating, yeah. And so you can actually, I'm definitely at a point where I can feel that energy flowing through my body and when I'm praying I can shift that energy around and I can feel it moving within me and it's when you actually feel like intense like love and joy like coming out of your heart space and like out the top of your head, it's a very cool feeling. Yeah, and that's like real alignment, isn't it? That's really being in a space of alignment. Yes, I think yeah, and being truly in your feminine. Yeah, I guess it's to relate it back to language, the concepts that you use and teach. Like really being in your feminine. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I think we can drop into our feminine when we feel safe. And there's lots of things That I teach in my work to create that sense of emotional safety in our bodies. Lots of nervous system work Lots of things to create that sense of safety But I found that Nothing will give you a sense of safety like understanding Who God is and his love for you and just how much he wants to protect you take care of you support you in your life and Provide for you in all of the ways that you need. So I think for me the big drop down around surrender, because ironically over the years I've tried to surrender. I've, in my own strength, tried to surrender. Like, how do I, how am I, how do I do this surrender thing? I've got to try and surrender. Which is the total opposite, the energy of surrendering. What I've found is that we can come to God and He can help us surrender, so we don't do it in our own strength. But, yeah, it's through, yeah, it's much easier to surrender when we understand what we're surrendering to. And not just to maybe something up there that's taking care of us, but when we get into having this relationship with God and understanding who He is. Reading his word, like reading scripture, listening to sermons, we start to understand that, yeah, there's this incredible God who doesn't just broadly love everyone, but individually specifically loves and adores you and has a great plan for your life, knows exactly what you need and is willing to provide it for you. That's game changing. That creates a safety. I don't think. Anything on this earth can give you. Totally agree. And I really felt that he had a plan for me. All the people that came on my journey. That complete safety. And I did, I had, I prayed on it daily for months. To sink into faith that he, to deeper into faith that he's provided all the right people And I'm doing everything I need to, there's nothing more I need to do So I was just thinking actually probably just to look, we're probably missing a little bit of the story here still and that so Ended up, yeah, working with Dr. Patterson Stark and Amber Lynch and yourself and Sarah as well, alongside And, went back, had another scan and they could see, and I had a scan in late November, so about six weeks after my first scan, they found the cancer, and they could see one little lymph node. It was like a little bit bigger, but they weren't sure and there was nothing else to see. So that's good. There was nothing on my liver, nothing on my lungs. So it was very unusual that it had just spread through the lymph system. It hadn't spread into my organs. I've got a whole theory around that. It all makes sense in terms of energy flow and I had stuck emotions in my bowel, which I cleared out with you through the coaching work we'd done. So it makes sense why it had, the cancer had tracked up to my bowel. To where it had gone to cause there was stuck emotions there. Anyway, side note it all made sense though. And so anyway, the oncologist had said, look, like she was really in the game of offering chemotherapy. She was trying to extend my life. I guess she was trying to cure it, heal me. But she was thinking about how to use the chemo drugs to extend my life. So she was thinking I've got such a minute amount of cancer in me let's just, let's wait until there's quite a lot has popped up before we use the chemo. And so she likened it to you wouldn't, if you go out and spray weeds. You best to wait till they've all struck, because there's always going to be more seeds. When I got that pretty much a clear scan, she couldn't believe it. I knew it was going to be the case, though. And so she was like, ah What do you want to do next? I was like, oh, let's not do chemo. There's no point. Let's wait and see what happens. And so she's yep, cool, really supportive of that. So that was my intuition kicking in at that point. My intuition was saying no chemo. My intuition was also saying, I don't think I need to do IVF, but I'm going to do it anyway. It all made sense, but I really was going, I don't think I'm going to need to do IVF. So I'm going to have natural babies, the fun way. And yeah, so that was, so that was early December. So I've spent the last three months healing. My body through under the guidance of Dr. Patterson in terms of diet So vegan diet, so I'm just literally just eating plants fruit nuts and seeds and legumes And cut out all oils etc eggs that all feeds bowel cancer. And sugar and salt and everything processed. I then do a five day fast once a month. So we can have about 500 calories a day during that fast, but essentially have having my the diet as it is to just take all the crap out of the body. reduce inflammation, let the immune system do its work, to make the body alkaline, because cancer grows in an acidic environment. So I made the body alkaline and then we do the fasts to push my body into ketosis. So you're changing fuel sources, changing from running on glucose to actually running on ketones. So you go into ketosis, and when you go into ketosis, that's when, it's like pushing the reboot button on your internet router. Because it's okay, reset, let's, the body starts to clean out all the old cells, the dead cells, anything that shouldn't be there, like your cancer cells. It then also gets your stem cells to start reproducing, and it's okay, fresh, let's make a new copy. That's been great, so I do that once a month. Also Quite a high level of exercise, so like 400 to 500 minutes a week of so it's about an hour. I do about an hour and a half a day of exercise, so just getting, get a bit sweaty and get a good amount of oxygen into my lungs. And, because cancer can't grow in a high oxygen environment. Cancer grows in an anaerobic environment. That's been a big part of it. Also a few supplements, through Dr. Amber and Sarah, just things to support my immune system and been able to find some things in my methylation pathways, which haven't been, just needed a bit more oomph to help. So I know that my liver and kidneys are working really well. I went and saw Dr. Patterson this morning. He told me I have the body and health of an elite athlete. Literally my stats, that's where they're sitting, which is extraordinary. So I've lost about yeah, I've lost 12 kilograms since. October, since before the surgery. So I don't even recognize my body anymore. It's pretty amazing what it can do and how it's healed. Three months after surgery, went for a seven and a half K run. I've never really been much of a runner, but exercise a lot. So it's been, yeah, there's been lots of things happening as part of an integrative healing approach and obviously like meditation and prayer has been a huge part of it just. Being able to surrender. If you can surrender in your body and have no stress, then your body can heal. Absolutely. That's key. And it's just, I don't know, I was just, Yeah, really in the last month just really started to deeply trust my body. I had faith, trust in God, but now I'm like really trusting my body. And so I'm excited to get my scan results. Yes. Because I want to see what the result is. And Patterson was saying to me this morning, he's got a couple of oncologists. One in India and one in New York, I think, who are following me as a case study and they can't believe what's happening in my body. And we were like, this is only three months. So what's going to happen in like another three months time, a year down the track is going to be super exciting. To look at you, you don't, it doesn't make sense to look at you, I'm sitting in front of you on my couch and you look so healthy. I am. You radiate health. Just so much and I was to put you and dad next to each other I feel like you both would be the same, you just, your skin is like, eyes are healthy, like you guys both look amazing and it's just, yeah, it's, I was actually talking to dad this afternoon just before you came over and he'd been up seeing his specialist in Auckland, he's part of a drug trial up there and we had a great result yesterday where his cancer is still stable. He gets MRIs every, we get results every six weeks. That's been I think about nine months where we've seen. No additional growth, which has been amazing. Great. And yeah, he is, they've got the they're scratching their heads wondering this doesn't make sense to us. Yeah. We can't work out like that. And they often say that when he's been referred to other specialists and doctors, they will say like basically what in his paperwork, the person sitting in front of you, it makes no sense. There's someone sitting in front of you. That looks so healthy and that's what I'm seeing someone who just is radiating health. It makes no sense when we think about what you've just shared and the journey that you've been on. Oh, totally. I know. That's why I'm just, I'm in total awe of my body. I think if there's any woman listening who's ever had a baby. Yes. Yeah. Like I haven't had children yet. But just that wow, this is what my body has done. That's how I'm feeling at the moment. I'm like far out. This is incredible. Yes. But I think, oh, the real blessing in this for me is that And I knew this early on, I was like, I thank God for making it stage 4, because that has actually, in a funny way, given me time to find my own journey. I haven't had pressure on from the oncologist to start chemo straight away. She's actually been saying, oh let's wait and see. And so that's given me time to, to heal, to find my intuition, to really pray on what's the right next step. And actually when you read a lot of the stories around people who have gone into remission, or been really successful, like your dad, at healing his cancer, it can take, a journey of your immune system doing it for you. Often there are people who are at stage 4 because they Either haven't been offered chemotherapy, or are really desperate I was just, because, yeah, I know I was talking to, I've made lots of cancer pals along the way. Yes. And, they literally just on chemotherapy straight away. Have surgery, boom straight into chemo, and there's no thinking space, because you're just in shock, and you trust in the advice that you've been given, and so I was really lucky that I, Was able to create some space to really To think, but By surrendering and trusting in God My intuition just came through really strongly and I just blurted it out literally My first appointment with Dr. Amber Who's the kinesiologist And I said, I don't know if chemo is what I should be doing And she said, trust your gut And Now, of course, I've delved into all the science around what trust your gut actually means, and it's all your cool microbes in your bowel. They actually will send messages to your brain, and it's just fascinating. Yeah, it's, oh, it's, the body's incredible. It totally can heal it itself, like Western medicine. It's approach to cancer is go in and kill the cancer cell. Whereas more of an integrative approach is How do we heal the cancer cell? How do we heal your immune system to get it to clean itself up, essentially? Yeah, create the right conditions for healing to occur. Totally, and I've just had the flow last week, and I'm pretty sure my husband spent longer on the couch than I did, so We know the immune system's working well. It's working! It's working! I was like so excited about having the flow because it was like, yes, I get to see. Here's a good test. Yeah, it's a great test. Yeah, and I think, yeah, so that's. Oh, there's been so many blessings. There's just so many cool things and there's so many great people who've, um, just divine connections, people who've popped up. One really cool wee story is the day after I came home, the day I came home incurable, I thought I'll do what I do best and I'll network. So I put a post on Bellcants New Zealand page saying, hi, looking for stage 4, people who are going through stage 4, or have Survived, looking for young, fit people, I'm only 30, and I've made a couple of really cool connections through that, but one connection that happened the next morning, that was a Tuesday, Wednesday morning I got a message from lovely lady, Alyse Cassidy, who lives locally, and she that morning had just, she hadn't been on Facebook for ages, and onto the bowel cancer page for ages, and she just thought that morning, I'll go on and have a look. And she went on and there was my post. And she recognized me and knew my name. And so she went to message me. And it turns out we had message history from like when I was at uni and she was like coordinating a program at uni. And so she messaged me and then literally two hours later she turned up, baby on her hip, box of goodies, and she just sat down on my couch and just talked for three hours and just gave so much hope. Sorry, key detail here. She has stage three, but she's a bit of a superstar at the moment. She's just on the coast to coast and there's a bit of media traction around her story because she was 28 weeks pregnant with her third child, her little girl Fenella when she was Diagnosed so she's got a pretty amazing story in herself, but like how extraordinary is it like that's the hand of God like She checked the page. She messaged me and then she just turned up and gave us so much hope like wow We can do this. This is cool. Yeah, she's great. She's like you're gonna be fine. Don't worry about it I'm like just totally loose style. So it's just wow, there's been so many Yeah, that was a really Special connection. What do you think, just starting to come to the end of our conversation, what do you think what advice would you give to someone who's maybe in the midst of a health crisis, maybe struggling with fear, uncertainty about the future? What do you think you'd say to them? That it's okay to feel that. That's a process you've got to go through that. And it's finding, how do you find some comfort with just sitting in that. Prayer has brought so much comfort and, oh, it's just been so lovely. That's how I've coped with that feeling. There's obviously days where you're not feeling so, you have big wobbles, but it's been, I haven't had a wobble for quite a while now. Every day is just filled with so much joy I literally don't even think about cancer, we don't even talk about it anymore we're just done, it's done, it's sorted. And I think that's where the prayer can just bring so much comfort, is just handing it over to God, just and everything that you might put it in a, put, write in a journal, just vocalize all your fears and your hopes and your desires, and ask God to help hold you. As you work through that, and you might not see the result that day, it might be the next day or a few weeks later. Yeah. But you do see it, and I can just testify to that. So many times. And I think, what I actually, like I guess in terms of how to have, how to have more of an exposure to faith and to start to form your own relationship with God. Yeah. There's so many great podcasts, sermons I just love Joel Osteen, because you put me onto him, in Texas, and I listen to his podcasts every day, his sermons, and, oh, you just feel myself on the guard, and listen to them yes, yeah oh yeah, I believe it just, oh, it's just given so much hope, yeah, and just, you just learn to, really stand on the word of God, stand with authority on his word, and no, this is what's happening. I am healed. And I think that's where the mindset piece comes in is Yeah, you just surrender enough you got nothing to worry about so I think yeah if you can finding some sermons that you like is really as a great way to just include that in your daily practice And even if you you're not sure about this whole god thing It's just being open. I just know that if you're listening to this podcast Like there is a reason why and that I would say i'm fairly certain that god wants to reveal himself to you, and He wants to have a relationship with you. This is not actually about religion. It's not about a whole lot of dogma it's about God wanting to come into your life and have a relationship with you and we access God's power and More of who he is through faith, but we don't have to have A whole lot of faith. We start with the faith that we have, Bible talks about having faith, the size of a mustard seed, that God can take that small amount of faith and he can work with it and build it and make it bigger. And I've seen that in my life. You've seen that in your life, that is really what God does. If you feel like these things, maybe it's not your health. Maybe there are things that you're navigating in your life where. It feels like there's real uncertainty maybe in your career, maybe in finances, maybe in a relationship Maybe there are burdens that you're carrying, God can help you with all of those things and the scripture talks about how All those that ask will receive and all those that you know, knock the door will be opened to them and so you just need to knock, you just literally need to express a desire, I want to connect with you. I'm not entirely sure what this is all about. Maybe I didn't even think I'd ever be a person that would talk to God, but I'm actually struggling with some stuff. I'm sick of doing this myself. I'm exhausted trying to figure all these things out on my own. God is there to meet you in those moments to say, look, I want to help you with that. I want, God wants to see us be free of our burdens. He wants to see us healthy, whole, he wants to see us living in joy and in peace. He wants us to be free of patterns that have held us back and He can do all of that when we demonstrate a willingness and an openness to say, look, hey, come into my heart, come into my life and help me. So start with what you've got. I think the other thing is like You think people probably think about praying like you don't have to be down every sitting or hands in a particular position It's just being in like you have to I think find your own way around how you want to Come into that Space and like for me, I love when I'm out exercising like often I will pray whilst I'm riding my bike Yeah How good is it when I'm like roaring down the road and wind in my hair and you can yell Like we live in the middle of nowhere. There's no one hearing me yell. Yeah, But like what a high energy like I live in a really high energy place and it's just I find it's super just empowering and it's really feel the Holy Spirit within me when you can hear the cicadas and the birds singing and a cow mooing and a sheep barring and you're roaring around the road on the bike and it's just wow this is so good and it's like I don't know just can in that moment experience like joy and just like I just vibrated a whole other level. It's epic. But then in the evening I really enjoyed just to And be it as part of my evening routine. I'll just do some deep breaths. Yeah. And again, just some of these tools that you've taught me, just just meditating and then I like to flow into prayer and it's just a lovely thing to do before reading a book and going to bed. There's so many ways you can do it. You can be walking, you can be standing, you can be sitting, you can do it in the car it's just being mindful and becoming that space. Yeah, totally. And it's not special language. God doesn't need special language. He doesn't need us to be perfect. He's just asking for our devotion and he will hear simple prayers. He'll hear prayers that are coming from that honest place of wanting to connect with him. It's accessible and it's available for all of us. But yeah, I think it's a really important point even if you don't feel this like Other godly other realm godly presence fall upon you immediately some people will have that experience. Yeah, sometimes it's about continuing to seek and so that would be the encouragement that I would give to anyone listening to this is that Keep seeking and you will find, he is so faithful and keep seeking even if you don't hear the answer or sense the answer or see the thing in your life and move straight away. Keep seeking and you'll find God is faithful to supply our needs. He's he comes through and I think the longer you walk with God, I would say I'm very new on my journey with God. But I've, the more I walk with him, the more I see him come through for me. And I, the more I see prayers being answered, the more your faith gets built and you go, actually, yes, I can rely on you. Like you are trustworthy in this way. Absolutely. Continues to deepen. Yeah. That's what he wants. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This has been so special to have this conversation with you and thank you. So much for being so willing to share something so personal to you, so deeply personal for us. I know that people listening are coming from different places and have different challenges in their life. But I just know that what you've shared there'll be, there's a blessing in this for people. So thank you for being so generous and willing to share this with us. It's being, yeah, a real privilege to be able to share your story. It's a privilege for me too, because I guess my gut, I was a bit nervous. When I offered, I said, listen let's do this. But I, it feels so right. And I think I really wanted to share my story before I get the result. And that's a testament to my faith in God. Yes. And also my faith in the power of our bodies. Yes. And what integrative medicine has to offer. And there's a whole other way of thinking. So I hope, there's something in there for everyone. Yeah, I'm super excited to let you know the result, what comes next. Yeah. We just stand in total faith with you over the next couple of weeks as we see all of that come together. Yeah. Oh, and thank you for all of your extraordinary support and love and just holding space for me over the last couple of years, but the last few months in particular, like you've just. God has, God sent you to me. It's been so grateful. Yeah, it's a privilege to be able to support you in a really like really deeply vulnerable time in your life, what it has been for you. So yeah, thank you for letting me do that. Is there anything else that you want to share as we finish up and close out the episode? I think that's probably all. I think maybe I'll just share the Word of God, which I've really stood on, that came through to me in one of my fasts. So it really brought an aspect of faith into my fasting. And this is Mark 5, 35 My daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace and be healed of your trouble. So that's, I just tell myself that every day I have faith. Go in peace, you will be well. And that's what I felt when I felt the hand of God after I was told I was incurable. That's gives me goosebumps, it's so incredibly moving, yeah. Yeah, it's extraordinary. I just, yeah, you just, yeah, can't wait for the results next week. Yeah, absolutely. I think we're all, yeah, can't wait for it and to be able to just stand in celebration of Yeah, what God's done in your life. It's incredible. Yeah I would just love to close out the episode with a prayer That would be lovely. Yeah. Love when we pray together. Thank you God for just the opportunity to have this conversation. We just thank you for all of the work that you're doing in Eve's life and just the incredible faith that she has and the healing that you've done in her body. And so we just give you thanks Lord for all that you've done for Eve. And Lord, I just pray for anyone listening to this episode, Lord, who has a burden that they're carrying, a trouble on their heart, Lord. I pray that you would lift those burdens, lift those troubles from them, Lord, and you would replace that with your peace. Your peace that surpasses all understanding, your peace that makes no sense, given the situation. And I just pray that peace would be upon you. Every single person who's listening to this episode, I speak a blessing over every single person listening to this episode and I pray, Lord, that you would reveal yourself to them in a way that makes sense to them, that you would reveal your heart for them The incredible love that you have for them and if they have a need Lord, I pray that they would come to you and and ask for that need, whether it be provision in some kind as a healing of some kind, whatever it may be Lord. I just pray that you would come and meet that need in abundance Lord. So I ask for a blessing of every single person under the sound of my voice, that you would bless them, that you would protect them in every single way. In Jesus name I pray. Amen. Amen. Wonderful. Thank you. Okay, thank you for being here. It's been so lovely to share this time with you. Yeah, it's been so cool. And if anyone's listening, Annabelle didn't have that written down, that's just what has, that's the word of God that has flowed through her she wasn't reading that prayer. It's amazing. Thank you. Okay. Bye. Bye. Thank you for tuning in. If you've made it all the way to the end of this episode, we would love to hear your feedback. Reach out to me via email. The information around that is below or on social media. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn. We would love to hear your thoughts on this episode. If you're interested in working together. All the information about that is also below. You can book in for a three or six month program and also an initial breakthrough session, which is a single session. Check out the other episodes on this podcast as well. See what's there for you. There's a whole heap of other episodes that can serve you, encourage you, support you wherever you might be and check back for more episodes like this one to stir your faith in the coming weeks. 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