Eve's Story Part 2: The Medical Miracle

In this episode, I sit down once again with Eve Northcote to continue the conversation on her remarkable healing journey.

Diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and given an incurable prognosis, Eve chose a different path 

— one rooted in hope, unwavering faith, and a belief that healing was possible, even when the odds appeared to be stacked against her.

Now, she shares an update that might just blow your mind. A scan result that defies every expectation — a true medical miracle.

Inside this episode, we discuss:

– What’s unfolded since her last update

– Her faith through setbacks

– The role of food, fasting & treatment

– A powerful spiritual healing experience

– And the scan results that defy all expectations
 
 

This is for anyone holding onto hope or believing for the impossible.  

We hope it encourages you deeply. 

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Welcome back to the podcast. Today I'm sharing with you part two of Eve's incredible healing journey. This is a story that has touched so many people since our first conversation a few months ago. If you haven't listened to part one, I recommend heading back and listening to that one. First, last year, Eve was diagnosed with stage four cancer. She was told that there was no cure. But she chose a different path to hold onto hope and to lead with faith that she would beat her diagnosis even when the odds felt impossible. In this episode, she shares her latest scan results, a true medical miracle that defies all expectations. Hi, I'm Annabelle, and this is Steep Your Soul Podcast, and I'm grateful that you're here listening to this episode today. If you're new here, welcome. Be sure to subscribe to this podcast so that you'll get notified each time I upload a new episode. And if as we go through this episode, you can think of someone who could use encouragement, we would love if you'd share this episode with them too. And if you want to learn more about me and about my work and how I can support you, you can head over to my website. The link to that is below. Let's get into it. Hello everybody. We're back on my couch drinking tea and eating yummy snacks. And we are here for part two of Eve's podcast. Something that we're excited to be doing, something that I know a lot of people have been asking for. If you haven't already, we really recommend that you check out part one of Eve's story, overcoming the Odds. It'll give you a lot of context for what we're about to talk about. So if you haven't listened to that, pop back to that episode and come back to this one. But it's great to be here and to be sharing this update with you. And yeah, we are just really amazed at how that podcast episode, who it reached and how it touched people and impacted them. And we're excited to see what this episode might do as well. So yeah, we're back here doing it. I know and I'm just so pleased we did that first podcast. Wow, like the things that have happened since are just gonna blow everyone's mind because I can't even comprehend it. Whoa, is this real? Yeah. So this is gonna be really cool episode and I think you'll all be just as mind blowing and amazed by what's happened and the role that God has played in all of this for me. Yeah. Can't wait to get into sharing you with you. All the cool things have happened. So the last podcast, we recorded that in middle of February. So just to bring everyone up to speed, I was diagnosed with stage four bowel cancer. In October. I had a major surgery, et cetera, and really my oncologist recommended I take the summer and. Let's wait and use chemo later. So that was the plan. I had always other amazing people come along on the journey with me from an integrative health perspective. So I really delved into diet, exercise fasting, faith, emotional, energetic, healing. A whole lot of different things all came together. I, and yeah, we were looking forward at the end of February, I was building up to a scan, and so the week after we recorded this podcast. Cast the part one, I had a scan, and then two weeks later, at the end of February, I got the result. Yeah. So that's where we left off. I was really in the space of huge hope and suspense that it would be a result that was encouraging and everything. I wanted the cancer gone. I wanted this job done. I wanted to get back to life, back to work. And even to just say that's not how the doctors saw this either. So even to touch on that point, so when they were recommending chemo, this wasn't, they weren't seeing this as a curative thing. No. They were palliative. Yeah. I think the oncologist was like, oh, let's give Eva a good summer. Yeah. So I had a really good summer. I did a lot of fun stuff. I had a great summer. I had a great summer. But yeah, and there's a lot of summers still to come. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we were at the end of that podcast episode, having faith for really good result a few weeks later and. Maybe that's where we wanna pick up. Yeah. Yeah. So do you wanna tell everyone,'cause I know people have reached out to me asking, what was the result? Wow. Where is E at? Yeah. There's a lot of people invested in your journey, which is really amazing. So why don't you bring people up to speed with, what was that result? What came through? Sure. So I think for anyone who's been or going through cancer, you know what scan anxiety is all about and the huge emotional buildup around getting a scan result and all your hope's been placed on it. So on, it was a Wednesday morning and we were supposed to talk to the oncologist eight 30 via teams. So we were able to do it from home. And she was just didn't turn up. This is weird. And then she phoned us like 10 to nine. She's we haven't got scan result. I was like, oh, for goodness sake, like such a windy, like I feel physically ill waiting for this result. And so she said, oh, we'll set up another call for one 30. So we came back online at one 30 and she, yeah, it was pretty much like unfortunately yeah, just the cancer has popped up. It's yeah you've worsened. And she didn't really go into a lot of detail in that because she didn't have a lot of confidence in the scan. So part of the problem is I've been doing all this fasting and I've got really fit and healthy. I've got no internal fat, so there's no fat around any of my organs. So they couldn't tell what's organ and what's the scar tissue and what was cancer. So she sent the report back to get reread, but from what she could see, there were six or seven like tumors. So essentially that was lymph nodes and she could see some cancer in my liver. It was like, oh, okay. But at that point we left the call and she was like I think we just leave it a couple more months. We wanna just really make sure that when we are using the chemo, we're going for a full wipe out. Kind of like I used the weed killer analogy in the last podcast, but so I finished the day. I was like, okay, alright, that's all good. We've got another couple of months before the next scan. And at this point I just really believed in everything that I was doing, all the tools and integrative practices I was using, like fasting's pretty powerful. I really believed in what I was doing and that my body just needed a chance, but I could see that yeah, obviously the cancer was, my immune system wasn't good enough to able to heal itself at this point. And so she, anyway, I was yeah, feeling okay. And then the next day, Thursday morning, I was just about to go for a walk up the hill and she phoned me to say, look, I've got the scan results. Back again. And I do recommend that we start chemo soon. You've got a large tumor and it's starting to push on some blood vessels in your liver and I don't want your quality of, I don't want that to start causing major issues. So she's can I book you in for chemo? Starting on the 24th of March? And I said, okay, yeah, fine. Book me in, but not fully committing. But I was just like, yeah, book me in, get me in the system, we'll get this process started. Yeah. And yeah. So pretty much walked outta the house and cried my way up the hill. Yeah. Had a wrong good yell up there. Yeah. And it was just, what did it feel like for you? Because we were so full of faith. Yeah. You were so full of faith about what that result was gonna be and. What did that feel like? I didn't feel let down. Like I knew the healing was still coming. I still had faith that I was gonna heal. I was gonna do this, but I was just annoyed. Yeah. I didn't wanna have to do care. I didn't want it to be harder. I wanted to just be done. And I go back to being a 30-year-old and carry on with life. Yeah. And I just didn't wanna have to, I just, there was more work to do and I just was like, oh, you come home from school and you've got a whole lot of homework or Yeah. More work to do. And that just felt heavy. And yeah. But there was so many other things happening at the time that I, again, I probably just went back into okay, what's the top priority of things to work out at the moment? And chemo and cancer wasn't the top priority, oddly enough. But it was such a funny, yeah, I had a mad wake, but a friend asked me after the scan result. And she said to me, oh, with your faith, like she was curious about faith. She said, oh how can you believe still when you didn't get the result you really hoped for? How do you still believe? I was like, wow, here is a whole list of insane ways that God has shown up for me. In the week following that result it was just next level and yeah, I can't wait to, I'll share with you what happened. Yeah. And I think that's an important point that comes up for people is, the last podcast episode that we talked about, we are discussing faith a lot in that episode and the role that's played in your healing and on this journey. It is one of those big questions that people ask, how do you believe in a God when you'd get cancer? Or I. There's so much suffering in the world and I think it's a valid point. Very much but I think the important thing to understand is that God is not the author of suffering. That there is a spiritual battle that is ongoing on this earth. Yeah. Between good and evil, and it was never. God's design for our bodies to, to be sick. For us to experience pain and suffering in this way. So God is never the author or creator of suffering. He can only be good. That is who he is. So he doesn't create suffering, but he always redeems it. And he's always at work in our lives, at actively working to redeem our suffering and our pain as well. He grieves with us in our suffering and pain. He's right beside us in our suffering and pain, and he's working to turn it for our good. That's what scripture talks about, and you are seeing that as such a overall, a huge theme in your life, that God never gave you cancer, but he is working this out for your good. He is blessing you along the way. And he's redeeming the story. And yeah, I just can't wait to see, the full fruition of that. But, I think just in you mentioning that's an important thing to, to be aware of. Oh, absolutely. And I can testify to this in the sense that I got a result, a scan result that wasn't good. And I just really felt that, okay, God needed me to walk through this. But he wasn't asking me to walk through it without all the tools. All the people full provision. And him. And him. Yeah. And that's what I saw the next week was extraordinary provision. Okay, let's, I'll tell you what happened. Yeah. So actually we'd been doing a house that popped up for sale like 10 minutes down the road from the farm and it just really felt like the right thing for us. Like we were living in the farm yard and, various. Factors at play there that we were, this house popped up and we really looked at it and it was this beautiful home. And I'd been going through the process of doing due diligence on it. I was going to auction. And so the day after I had signed up for chemo, been told my result I needed to start chemo. That was a Thursday, Friday, put in an offer on this house, and I want it pretty much unconditional. But we had a condition in there that if they accepted our offer, that they remove it from auction. So I got an email back on Saturday morning, straight away accepting our offer, no negotiation. And I'd been really praying through over the six weeks in the lead up to this moment that if this house is meant to be, then the process will be easy and simple or the competition will be removed and we'll be able to buy this. And we won't be stretched beyond our means. Like we'll be financially comfortable is what I wanted to be, just financially comfortable. And it was interesting because two days before I went in for surgery, I had pulled out of a house I had under offer in Coca-Cola. And I was like, you like last year? Yeah, last year. Like I was just about to buy this house anyway. I wasn't gonna be able to do any of it because I was gonna be cooked on drugs and hospital for a week. So I pulled outta that and I think, wow, what divine provision that I didn't need, essentially investment property. I needed a home and whoa, did God provide us a home, like beautiful home, amazing gardens, incredible views. It's really convenient to the farm. It's three times bigger than a house. It came with a seven bay shed. So happy husband came with a spa pool, so happy wife. It was just been amazing. And the other piece around, the house was that just that whole week, a number of financial things went really well for us. We got an extremely good interest rate. We managed to lock on 4.99% for three years. A special like rate. It was like a short term deal. I got a pay rise. I also got a mean bonus at work. I won Lotto twice. I got addicted to Daily Keynote in March. So I only won$200, but hey, I was taking that as positive confirmation of God at work. The other thing was with the chemo, they, there was a drug, which when they were looking to get me set up and when we quoted it all and gone through this process back in November there was a non-funded drug available and this non-funded drug is standard practice of care. Pretty much in every other country around the world, apart from New Zealand. And it would increase the efficacy of my chemo treatment by 10%. So big difference. So it was gonna cost 25 grand and I'd be able to get some of it paid for by my private health insurance, but I would have to find 15 grand. Anyway, all of a sudden, that drug, there's now another one that'd been approved by Phar Act like literally a month before, and it was only gonna cost six grand. The other thing that really was cool that happened that week, I guess actually there's so many more cool things to happen if that wasn't exciting enough. During all this, so we're settling a house this week. This is the first week in March. Settled a house on the Friday. So I was doing the, finishing up some of the paperwork during the week and I wanted to decide whether to do chemo. So I had gone to town and sat down with Dr. Patterson Stark and grilled him on everything to really just. I was just super aware that you only get so many shots of chemo and every time you have a round of chemo, it's efficacy decreases. So I needed to be coming and punching and I just was conscious that yes, I believe my body can heal and faith in God, that it would heal. But I knew I needed to come in with a sucker punch for this cancer and that sucker punch was either gonna be chemo or I was gonna fly to Mexico and go and go to either one of the integrative hospitals there. So I spent time talking to Patterson and my kinesiologist and really like grilling them on everything. I read a, read lots of books and also talked to Hope for Cancer in Mexico and under well, wanted to find out what they would, protocol they'd recommend, what the treatments were, they're offering. And then I pretty much just wrote it all down and did a comparison of all the treatments and, yeah, really just prayed into it and it came really became very clear, very obvious. It wasn't a hard decision at all that I knew I needed to stay in New Zealand. We had this beautiful home. I was supposed to stay there and heal and I also really felt that God wanted me to stay in New Zealand and essentially be a labate for the whole Foods mimicking diet fast with chemo. So they've done clinical studies in lab rats and things, but they're just doing some of the studies now in humans. So this is leading edge science and I really wanted to try it because it's free. There's no drug company getting rich out of fasting. And I really wanted to try it, proud of, provide a testimony for patients in New Zealand.'cause I've been really shocked by the archaic state of New Zealand's cancer care in general, and that we're very narrow in how we think about cancer care. We just think about. Surgery, chemo, radiation. We don't think about the whole person or all the elements coming together. So I just really wanted to stay in New Zealand and felt that chemo was the right choice. So that was cool. The other great thing that happened that week hidden that lovely neighbor pop round, and this is where God showed up again, that he just sends all sorts of people your way and sometimes they're just people that you just would not expect to be the perfect connection. And so this is a lovely neighbor who's been through cancer and been become a wonderful friend through all of this. She's been epic. And I just said to her how said, oh look, I've been on a massive faith journey. And she's oh my gosh. My best friend in Kai called, she's an associate pastor. Oh, we have to connect you. You'll love each other. I was like, whoa, okay. Really wasn't expecting you to be friends at the pasta. Anyway, he, so on the Thursday. Lovely pastor from Kaiko came to visit. She drove an outta my house and we had just amazing connection. Super cool. And from that connection, I've actually gone and attended several church services at New Life Kaiko and found a beautiful community there and really looking forward to being able to be part of that more. But just health at the moment means I'm not able to, but I can watch online from home. So that was another amazing thing that happened that week. Plus I went to a wedding on the Friday, settled the house and went to a wedding on the Friday. And the other cool thing was I was supposed to go to the Zander McDonald Award conference on the Gold Coast the following week, on the second week of March. And Z McDonald Award is like an awesome community of, yeah, young leaders from Australia and New Zealand and I was a finalist in the award a few years ago. And so I get to still be part of the community. So it's a, it's for the equity set. I really wanted to go. I'd been on the organizing committee, organizing the conference, and anyway, I realized that it was probably unrealistic to be able to go to the Gold Coast the following week because I needed to move house that week'cause I was starting chemo the following week. So I ended up bringing the chemo forward to the 18th of March.'cause I wanted it to, I was trying to fast with my cycle better anyway, so I was like, what am I gonna do about this conference? I realized that it was probably a bit optimistic to go. I really needed to smack myself with the sensible stick. And so I emailed them and said, look, I'm really sorry. I won't be coming. And I didn't think I'd get my, like a refund on my flights and things. I.'cause of the insurance. Anyway I just had so much else going on that week that I waited and waited to work out what to do and on the Wednesday night I watched the weather forecast on the news and saw that there was a massive cyclone coming for the Gold Coast Cyclone, Alfred, Alfie. So Alfie did me a solid sorry for all the people on the Gold Coast who were severely impacted by the flooding and destruction caused by that cyclone. But the cyclone helped leave out because on the thir Friday morning it was getting ready to go to this wedding and yeah, flights were all canceled, conference was postponed. So yeah, it was, wow, great timing. So I'm actually going to the conference in August now, which is cool. So that was just like one of those weeks. By the end of the week it was just like far out. So you had this like news that feels. Devastating. This is not Yeah. What I was thinking it was going to be it could be easy to fall into despair and hopelessness at that point, thinking like, maybe I just do need to accept my fate. Yeah. How the doctors see me and my condition. But it was like God was saying, Hey, I'm still here. I'm still providing for you and I've still got good plans for you. And I think that was just a really big encourager from you. From Yeah. The outside looking in was an encourager for you to say, Hey look, keep going. Yes. Yeah, totally. And the fact that I've been praying and to just that we won't need to worry financially that it will just be comfortable. Yeah. And then all these great money things happen. Like we don't, we're not the sort of couple that have great money thing, you just work hard and you make money and we're pretty frugal. You always money thing, great money things happen. It was like, okay, wow. Yeah. It just really felt provision for it and it just gave me super con lots of confidence that this home was the right move. And staying in New Zealand and doing chemo was the right thing to do too. Yeah. And it just brought me a lot of peace before starting chemo. Yeah. That, yeah, it was the, definitely the right decision. And yes, there's definitely, there's lots of ways to heal cancer and some people do heal cancer and stage four cancer in Mexico, and I'm sure I would've if I'd gone down that pathway but what would cost a hundred grand. Yeah. And I just but that aside, the money piece aside, it was more for me around fasting could help improve cancer outcomes for so many New Zealanders. I need to try this. Yeah. And I'm I'm already being able to share and Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So maybe let's talk about that. You start. Chemo. That's like the next step on this journey, right? Yeah. And you're combining it with fasting. So what does that look like practically? Tell me about that. So you come to this place of feeling at peace, right? Chemo is the right pathway for me, I feel that sense of certainty about this. So you start chemo, how are you preparing your body? What are you doing during chemo to support your body? Tell me about that. Yeah, so we moved house and I started fasting. We're still moving house and I started fasting on the Friday. So the diet that I'd been fasting, protocol I'd followed all summer. I'd done a fast once a month, and it was a five day fast. It's based on the research by Delta. Dr. Voler Longo was an Italian academic. And you still have, you're still eating, so you're having 500 calories a day, but that caloric deficit is enough to push the body into ketosis to think it, it hasn't got any food. You don't have to go through agonizing pain, feeling starving. You do if you're about to get your period learned, that one the hard way. But you actually feel quite comfortable. And so I would fast for three days before chemo. I have chemo on day four, come home and fast for another day on day five. And then day six is the refeeding day, and that's really important. So by refeeding, you're refeeding your gut microbes and getting them to start again. So you can't finish a fast and then go full hog. I can't, I'm addicted to nut butters. I can't go straight into the peanut butter in day six or even really day seven I wait Yeah. To get to that higher energy food. But yeah. So through the fast you just have Yeah. Beautiful. You I was. Getting pretty good at it. It's, I can flip into ketosis quite quickly after a day and a half, I can start to feel a like headache and I'll be going into ketosis. And once I'm ketosis I would have beautiful mental clarity and pretty good energy. You just have to, don't have quite as much stamina. When starting chemo and on day four going into have chemo, what made it super effective is the fact that my body is already in ketosis. So all my healthy cells were shut down and put up their little safety barriers. And cancer cells are really stupid, like a basic, a really basic dumb cell. They're not that dumb, but they can be cunning, but they're quite a basic cell and they're sitting there and they're just sitting ducks essentially. They're hungry, they're looking for food, and they are exposed. And so chemo generally doesn't know what a healthy cell or an unhealthy cell is, but if all your healthy cells are shut down, they've got their little defense walls up, then the cancer cells are just sitting, ducks comes in, nukes the cancer. And then because your body's in ketosis process of autophagy is already happening and autophagy is like your body's clean out mechanism. So we're designed to go without periods of food, go without food for periods of time. And back on the Great Plains when we are looking for a berry brochure mammoth to eat or something. Our bodies when it's looking for that next feed, it's got a caloric deficit, some ketosis. It starts to clean out all the dead dying cells, any cells that aren't supposed to be there, anything that's cancerous, it just gets rid of it. And it puts it in, it gets rid of it through your lymph system, which is why it's quite important to actually keep exercising. I'd keep exercising an hour a day, even the day after chemo. I'll still do an hour's exercise and like little chunks of little walks. And the other thing when you're in ketosis that happens is your stem cells are activated to. To reproduce, so you're getting a fresh copy of healthy cells. So it's pretty amazing. Like our bodies know what to do, they know how to heal, they know what to do when they're feeling sick. If you're like, you think about an animal, like as a farmer, if you've got a sick sheep cow, they'll just go sit under the tree and they'll just rest until their body can process it and get rid of it. Whatever's going on that all they'll die. If you've got livestock, you've got dead stock, but like we are just animals and we have this, our bodies know how to heal. They know how to get rid of challenge immune challenges. So yeah, go in and have chemo and they all look kinda looked at me as a bit of a zoo animal. They'd never had anyone fasting before doing what I was doing. They were super, the nurses were intrigued, but a bit skeptical, I think. Especially when. Most patients will take, have steroids for three days. So day one being the day of chemo and they take steroids to prevent nausea and they also take anti-nausea tablets. So general medical practices to prescribe at least two anti-nausea drugs. So I didn't take any of the steroids. No steroids because if you're fasted, like you're not nauseous, like you get nauseous because your body can't deal with food. It's dealing with getting rid of this chemical load. So if you just don't have much food in this system to start with, you can't get nauseous. Yes. So I didn't have any steroids and I only took one anti-nausea tablet in the morning before chemo. And I dunno if I really needed to do that. It was probably more just psychological, keep'em happy. So that was, yeah they were pretty curious about all of that. So yeah, I. Day one. It was, yeah, it was scary. It was a lot of motions just build up. Like I got out of this, the chemo suite and just burst into tears. Yeah. And it was awful.'cause you just hot your body, like you're full of all this chemical and you feel super faint and everything. Like the bowel cancer, chemo drugs you keep all your hair, but main side effect is like neuropathy and like feeling really tingly. So all of a sudden, like you go to the bathroom and you sit down on the toilet and all your backs, your legs, everything's tingly and prickly. If I get cold, my hands clam up like little dinosaurs and you're like trying to turn the tap on. My face, if you're outside and I haven't got like a scarf, like the day after chemo, I go for a walk. I'll have like long johns wooly long Johns Marino drip pants on top, coats balaclava hat because. Just the change in temperature can really like upset things. So even like ear temperature, you can end up like, feel like you're getting, you're choking like claustrophobic, like it's awful. So you have to breathe in warm air. My eyeballs, like if I go from one room in the house to the other, like going to the bathroom where it's cold to cover my hand, put my hands on my eyeballs,'cause the change in temperature will make them water. And then that water is like being stabbed in the eyeballs. So not a lot of fun. So you just gotta keep warm. And that was probably the hard part, that first round of chemo was just learning how to do it. And everyone has to Yeah. Learn how to do it and what works. And like for George and I, you know what I need and that, that's it. I need a warm house. Yeah. And he has to make sure the. At the ready. Yeah. Developing your own protocol really, isn't it? Yeah. What works? What works? Yeah. So the first round was definitely the hardest, but then you get into the role of, what to expect and just how you can only drink warm water and yeah, put gloves on if I need to get something out of the freezer, and just little stuff like that. But I could feel like the day after chemo every hour, my body would just be getting rid of it. So just drinking lots of fluids and keeping warm. And so I'd actually feel healthier really quickly. So by day, three after chemo I'll be back walking three kilometers. Yeah. And I'd often see you on day three. We'd often just have a session on day three, and I always just thought that you would be reasonably high energy, you were pretty good. Pretty good. Really? Hey. Yeah. So my side effects have been a one out of 10 on the scale, and it's all down to fasting, and I've kept moving a lot. I exercise for an hour a day. I'm reasonably fit walk seven and a half KA day, like once I'm outta that initial chemo period. So that's what, oh sorry. Key detail here. I'd have on a 21 day cycle, I'd have chemo on day one of IV of oxaliplatin. And then I'd go home and take capecitabine for two weeks. It's tablet form and I'd also have this non-funded drug as well via iv. So been prescribed six rounds of that. I've currently done four. I'll start number five on Monday, so yeah. Yeah, feeling like we're getting closer to the end. But yeah, it was a lot to yeah, chemo's, yuck. Even though I've got a sweet ride, it's still yuck and the fasting helps a lot, but I've just really lent into that during the fast to just take a spiritual aspect to it and to just re like really enjoy receiving. From God. Like you get beautiful clarity. It's like you've got a hotline open during a fast. You do. Really? Yeah. And that's been the pace. I'm like, okay, I don't look forward to having to have a needle put on me and do all that, but I look forward to the fast. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So I love fasting from a spiritual point of view. I don't really use it from a physical health point of view. But it's a great practice spiritually that a lot of people use. Totally. Yeah. It's biblical and it is, it's like having a hotline to heaven, I would say. I feel like you get amazing mental clarity. I think it opens your ears and your eyes to God. Like you'll, if you're feeling stuck around something, I've just seen, like miraculous things occur in my life and in the lives of people that I've been praying for when I've fasted and I've combined fasting with prayer. So when I've combined those two things and prayed for specific outcomes for people. Yeah, that seemed impossible. That seemed given a history, like how would this ever happen? This has taken so long for this person and even for my own life, I have seen mountains move, from combining both of those things. So it's an amazing practice if you're feeling stuck and stagnant. Combining it with not just a physical fast, but using it as a way to get closer to God. To hear from him. Yeah. To receive guidance and to pray for barriers and obstacles and things to be removed. Yet the miraculous happens, I think in the days after a fast. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I think often you wouldn't see things show up during the fast Yeah. What you've been praying into. But it's the weeks after like it's, isn't it? Yeah. Oh. Oh, okay. This all makes sense now. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I think I also just follow, I time restricted eating so it won't, my last meal at six o'clock at night, I won't eat again until 14 hours later. So that's again, just an opportunity for the body to clean out every night and detoxify. But yeah, so good. It's been so cool and it's been so satisfying and really interesting having conversations with the nurses and my oncologist about what I've been doing and the protocol and Patterson was awesome and that he put together a protocol so my oncologist knew what I was up to and she was like, oh yeah, there's some quite cool research about fasting. I was like, yeah, we know. So she was supportive of me doing that, so that was great. But yeah, it was interesting. Like I was just where we are at in New Zealand in terms of how we think about food and nutrition as part of our cancer care. Know, we're still very much just, drugs and surgery and radiation. Like my first day having chemo, I was pretty surprised. Like I was there with my little fruit bowl for my afternoon fruit snack. And watching the others people being served like white bread sandwiches, like white bread is inflammatory. Probably with margarine in there. Yeah. Ham and eggs aren't good for bowel cancer, but there was quite a few of us having the same chemo drugs. So I have a white bread sandwich and then a sweet, so a banana chocolate chip muffin. And I just really surprised me, like I appreciate that they just wanna keep people fed, but I just made me feel sad that people coming into this space will almost expect to see diet, what they should be eating, role modeled for them there. And I'm not saying like we should be rolling out like expensive meals, like really some soup, like a bean salad or something's cost effective. That would be really healthy and. Supportive for people and I ended up giving some feedback because I just really wanted to understand about what's happening with the food. And I now have a fruit bowl available for patients because I didn't have any fruit available. Yeah. So I asked for a piece of fruit and one of the nurses gave me her banana because that was the first day I'd actually forgotten to take my fruit bowl. I got really good at it after that, but I was like, surely this is a cancer. Sweet. Like you don't have fruit. Yeah. Fruit. It seems basic, doesn't it? Like I'm not asking for mangoes and pineapples. I'm just asking you get a banana. Yeah. And apple or something. And that really shocked me and I ended up having a really great conversation with the nutritionist there. And actually, sorry, we detail before that is my onboarding pack that they gave me. They had key priorities of nutrition. The first one was to maintain weight even if you're overweight. And that really surprised me because. Like your liver is one of the first places you're still fat and you need your liver to be in primo condition to work through chemo. Yeah. And so I had a great conversation with the nutritionist for half an hour on the phone one day, and I was told that during chemotherapy they do not use nutrition as medicine. They're just in survival mode. They just wanna keep calories in. Try and just have some toast if you need to. Which is fair enough if people are feeling nauseous and yucky, they wouldn't be if they were fasting. Yeah. But they then don't use nutrition tool as medicine till after the treatment. But when I sit back as like my farming brain, my agricultural science degree in farming, we understand that soil science, soil health is the center of all health. Soil nutrients and microbiome. It's so important for this whole system health. Then in a human, our gut microbiome, our nutrients in our body, it's key to our whole health. Yes. So I'm like, where's this piece missing in this whole picture? Like it seems really damn obvious to me. And it's funny actually, because you know how you often, people often studies do a degree and they're like, how are you gonna use that in your life? I have a first class honors degree in soil microbiology. Turns out you are using it. I'm using it again now, and I'm using it for understanding the human gut microbiome and how it works. And that's more holistic. I essentially was studying regenerative agriculture before we even called it regenerative agriculture. It was like biological farming then. But anyway, I've just been really shocked by how we're just not the connection, the limited view of the limited view of healing. Yeah. Yeah. And food not playing a part when we know that is such a crucial part. It is absolutely, a huge part of it. And I guess that maybe leads me on to, the other part of emotional spiritual healing and the role that plays in physical healing of the body. And maybe we could touch on the soso healing and what that experience was like. And yeah, I'm keen to hear about that aspect too. Yeah, totally. So I think for me. There's very, there's no scientific evidence behind this. This is just some numbers I've whipped up, but I reckon 60 to 70% of my healing process and journey has been emotional and spiritual. Like I was already fit and healthy person. Now I'm just an elite athlete, status healthy apart from little bit of cancer. And so that is an interesting point. Saying 60 70% of it is emotional, spiritual. But people would've looked at, you even wouldn't have thought, oh, you're someone that's got lots of baggage. Yeah. Lots of trauma. You're carrying lots of pain. People wouldn't have looked at you and thought that. And I think that's also an important part as a human being walking around this earth. We all have baggage. Yeah. We all have pain, we all have trauma. It exists on a spectrum, but it is impacting all of us in some ways. And so I think Yeah. Yeah. And like I've never had big trauma, like big T trauma in my life. Yeah. Like beautiful childhood. So blessed in so many ways, but we all just have little stuff like doing life is traumatic in itself. Yes. And there's these little things I think you just gotta shed light on in your soul and just understand and go, oh, I can see how this experience has caused this emotion and now that causes this behavior for Yeah. And for me that was like, why am I so organized and like I'm hyper organized and very efficient and it's actually that's a form of control. What was the emotion like? Why do I need to control everything? Like, where does this stem from? And control's about fear, isn't it? Yeah. It's rooted in fear. So was that fear? Yeah. Yeah. What was that fear? And it's yeah, I think it's just also understanding like every child has a different experience of their home and their parents, and. We all just have a different life pathway. Yeah. And that's just what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And there's stuff that we just pick up along the way. Yeah. And as you said, it needs light. We need to bring light to those things. And I guess that's really what the Soso healing was.'cause I was sitting at church one day and I wasn't aware of what Soso was. I'd never heard of Soso. SOZO. Yeah. And the person who was speaking and delivering a message, and she was saying that it's a deliverance session, and she was saying that it had created a huge breakthrough in her life. And I just thought, ding ding. This feels like something I need to tell Eve. And remember we talked about it in a session, and then a couple of days later you'd book the session. Classic Eve, basic Eve, ready to go. I do all the homework with me. Yeah. Yeah. Sozo, we did that. You came with me, which was amazing. So I. Went to a soso healing session in the first week of April. So it was the week, my last week of round one of chemo and just before round two. And it was great timing because actually before every time I have chemo, I see the kinesiologist in the morning. And so she had been really digging deeper. Yeah. And so for that first round of chemo, I was really, that was the worst round because I was exhausted from moving house, making all these decisions. And then I had been doing a lot of emotional digging.'Cause she's you've got a lot of anger in that liver girl. I like, what am I angry about? That had to work backwards. So I'd done quite a lot of processing and cleaning. Out and then we went into Soso and Soso. I guess the best way to describe it is spiritual healing session. We had two lovely church elders went through Harmony Church in Christchurch and they were trained in Soso. So Soso is an international protocol tool. Yeah. A process really where you have one person in the room asking questions and the other person is taking notes and also receiving the word of God and helping support the other person who's it's coaching essentially. Spiritual coaching. Yeah. But God's really doing the work. He's the one, yeah. Present healing, removing stuff, clearing things. Yeah. Yeah. And it was interesting'cause I said, oh, can I bring my friend Annabelle? And they're like, yeah, I don't really want friends. I was like, oh, she's actually my coach and she knows everything. And anyway, it was great having you there because. As I said, you actually helped channel the energy, but also amazing to have you here to testify to what happened in that session and that it wasn't just I didn't make this up. It actually happened. Yeah. So how they do it is you just I literally just sat there in a chair, my palms open and this beautiful room. They, and like it's all very professional. Yeah. Done like visiting a counselor's office. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah. It, yeah. Very professional. And we just start off and they explained a little bit how it works and all they asked of me was, my parents together to have a good relationship and have how many siblings I've got. So not, didn't ask around my relationship with them, just are my parents together and have I got siblings? That was all they asked of me. And essentially they take you through four doors and it's just like doors and two, you soul and. Just shedding light in each of those doors. So the first one is around what do you need to forgive? Second one is cult. So they said to me like a Ouija boards or horoscopes and that sort of thing. Third one was sexual relationships, and fourth one was what was fear? And so they just like really gently started off by saying, asking me, they, so they would ask a question and then I'd have to repeat it out loud. And you just feel the answer in your body. I literally sat down and started crying immediately. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. I I'm not a crier at all. I've hardly cried through this whole cancer journey, but I just sat down and cried and you just feel this intensity or hate. It was just insane. I just really felt the presence of. Holy Spirit, God and Jesus in this space, there's these lovely ladies. And the first sort of three, like out the gate things that happened where I was like, my science brain cannot argue with my faith heart anymore. Yeah. And so the first thing that happened is that they just rid my body of the cancer. Asked her to leave trove up, go away. And then after that they asked me, where is the Holy Spirit, God and Jesus in this room? And I honestly felt this amazing gentle pressure under my arms. And I was just being gently lifted. I was lifted about 20 centimeters above the seat, and it was them lifting me like beyond the cancer. And they just gently hovered me there and then placed me back down. And it was just extraordinary. It was just like. Yeah, it's beautifully soft touch. They being Holy Spirit God in Jesus. Not the two other women, but yeah. Yeah. I think they were like, oh. I was like, they asking, what can you feel? What? Where are they? And you just, I said, they are lifting me out of my chair. And they said, oh good. Just, yeah. That's great. That happened. Cool. And it really was quite something, wasn't it? The whole experience. The whole experience. And then the second amazing thing that happened, so there was quite a bit on the cult door for me, interestingly enough, the first thing that came up was intergenerational family farming. And so for my husband and I, we've got farming in our blood on grandparents' lives. Great-grandparents, like everyone was farmers. But it was around just the intergenerational sacrifice for the land sacrifice at all costs of personal health, wellbeing, happiness and that, generations of people who have worked really hard. For the land. Yeah. It's just, I think really putting that in perspective and thinking it was really nice actually. They it was around like in terms of, they close that door for me by just, blessing George and I and that we'll be able to lead our family and our farming careers in a different way. You do it differently. Yeah. Not sacrifice at all costs because that's not healthy. Yeah. The second thing was school, the expectation of excellence. Yeah. That was a type A, I did well at school. Given that. And the third thing, which was like pretty weird, they asked me if I had a connection to the Freemasons and I was like yeah, they gave me a$6,000 scholarship at uni'cause I take money from everywhere. And I said, oh, I've actually got a family member whose husband was a Freemason. And they're like, okay. Yeah. They ultimately. Worship Satan, they've got a hole on your body. I was like, okay, alright. This is like next level stretching me a bit, but age you're stretching me. I'm like, okay, whatever. Alright, let's just go with this. So they rid me of that. And it wasn't until after the session I said, oh, do you ask everyone about the free masons? And they said no. So the lady who was writing the notes had received a word from God at the start of the session. She said very early on I received a word that there was a hold on you on your maternal line. And I was like, oh my goodness, that's a bit bizarre. I said yes this familial connection was Oh, my maternal line. Yeah. Okay. And then what happened after the whole session? Once we finished the whole session, we're just talking about gardening.'cause it had come out that I loved gardening. And the lady was like, the lady had received the word from God about the Freemason, said, oh, you should get some Ra Mary for your garden. And literally three days before. I'd been to this person's garden and received, I had dug up SRA area. Yeah. I went to the garden to get SRA area. I was like this is all just a bit. Yeah. It was a bit of a confirmation, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. This was a bit too strange to be a coincidence. So that was crazy. That was cool. So we closed off that cult door and then finished the session. And as we are finishing the session at the end, they asked me, okay where is Holy Spirit, God and Jesus in this room? So I just sat there for a while and I could feel where they were. I didn't know, this sounds a bit crazy, but I said it. I said, Darren Annabell. They're like, okay. I was like, Annabell Hass been my angel through all of this. God has to use Messenger sent like God has sent Annabel to help me on this journey to look after me. And after the session, once we closed it off.'cause you were silent through the whole thing. You were like, oh my goodness. When they asked you that question, where are they in the room? I was sitting there like full body tingles and you said go I can feel it. Yeah. Which was just, yeah. So beautiful, wasn't it? And I just remember that moment of us walking out of that session and you're like, he's done it. God's done it. Yeah. You had such clear confirmation. God's healed my body. Yep. And we were just kinda did that even happen? This was crazy experience. It was also so gentle and soft. Like it wasn't there was no yelling. There was no yelling. It wasn't a deliberate session that was like full of yelling or anything. It was really soft and gentle and just beautiful. Yeah. Really quite a cool experience and just indicates how there is Yeah. Healing that I think. If we want to experience healing physically in our body, that it's got to go beyond just our physical body, that there is mental, emotional, and spiritual healing. Yeah. To go through. And I think there's pathways for everybody around that. Maybe it's a soso healing for someone. Maybe it isn't, but it's looking at Yeah. What's the emotional component? Yes, for sure. Of what it is that I'm experiencing. And that wears that, like for every emotional thought we have, it's stored as energy somewhere in our body. Like in fact, I have bowel cancer's no coincidence because that was where the energy was stuck. Yeah. I was, bowel is all associated with holding on and letting go. Yeah. Process was holding on all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And and so that's what this has all been about is letting go, what have I been letting go of? And sometimes it can be intergenerational for people. Yeah. And not so much for me, I don't think, but. People do hold onto intergenerational trauma and their energy gets heart like stored.'cause your eggs as a woman, your eggs are formed when you're in your mother's stomach. Yeah. Absolutely. It's like it's there. Totally. So we experienced the soso and then there was like a bit of a weight, so we knew you'd had your next scan result was coming up. Had you had that confirmed yet, or Not yet? So this was the end of first round. Round, sorry. The next scan date. Ah no idea yet. Had they told you yet? No, not yet. More chemo to go through. I had more chemo, so I was just very much at this point, just went through all that session and I was like, the next day I had an appointment with the oncologist to re-prescribe and to check in with my symptoms, et cetera. I was like, what do I do? I'm pretty sure this is sorted, but I really can't tell my oncologist who's pretty black and white that God healed me yesterday and I'm all sorted. So I was like, okay, I better play a game. Because yeah, better keep going with the process. So yeah, it really kinda came into this season for me, five to six weeks of just doing chemo and resting and healing. And I think this was the hardest part of the whole journey because you are working towards something. I had a knew I was gonna have a scan between, before I started my fourth round of chemo. I wanted to check in and say if I was responding to chemo and I'd asked what a good response would be and she said it would be a third of a reduction in tumor size would be an amazing. Response. And so I was just in this season of just having to pray. And I think during the PA when you're having to be patient, that's when your faith really gets tested. Gets tested, and you just have to yeah, just hold that space and heal. But one thing I received from God during the Soso was that in terms, they asked me what does God want for me? And he wanted me to be a mother. Yes. Beautiful. And he wanted me to be courageous. Yeah. So I just had to, I just sat with that and and yeah, went through the process and it was really interesting. When I was going, doing my fast for my third round of chemo, I really received two words from God very strongly. The first was Luke chapter nine, verse 43, and it was after it's just at the end of a piece around where Jesus heals a boy with an evil spirit. And the passage reads, all the people were amazed by the mighty power of God. So I was like, okay. That was the piece that really resonated for me. And the other passage that really resonated was Luke chapter 11, verse 36. If your whole body is full of light with no part of it in darkness, it will be bright all over as when a lamp shines on you with its brightness. Yeah, and that really resonated for me'cause I just felt like through the soso and the work I've done with my kinesiologist, that I had just shed light everywhere it needed to be. And then I just had to just have faith and trust that my body knew how to do its thing. It was healing, I was giving it all the right tools and the fasting was helping. And make chemo really effective. Yeah, I, that all was going on. And yeah, I guess the buildup to the scans, I had a scan in the middle of May and got the result a week later. And that buildup period was really hard. And I think I'd said, you were amazing through all of this. Just meeting me in those moments of you actually held me accountable, I was saying, look. I think, I know full healing is coming, but it might not be the scan and that's okay. It might be the next one. So almost like allowing I just tempering expectations really. Yeah. Which is my sad brain and Makes sense. Makes sense. Yeah. And you are like, no, we're going for full healing. This is what's happening. I was like okay. Remember what you got in your soso session? I was like, yes. Thank you, Anna. Above. That's right. And so I, yeah, I was trying to sit in that space and it was really hard. And your beautiful sister, Jenny, who I haven't met, but we're having lunch together after this in 20 minutes. In 20 minutes, we better keep going. She has kindly prayed for me through this whole journey, and she just randomly one day had felt the need to go sit in her car and pray in tongues. And she received, and then you passed on to me what she'd received and. The word that had come through for her was that Jesus is beside me and he's whispering to me. And that she really felt that if I prayed in tongues, I would, I could receive even more enlightenment. So I was like, okay, cool. I don't know what tongues is. So I Googled it and then I tried it. So tongues is like when you make you communicate with God, you pray in a way that you're not speaking a language, you're just making sounds. It's like a vibration, an energetic language. So I was like, okay, all so I just lay in bed about to go to sleep praying. I was like, so I just asked the Holy Spirit to guide me on how to speak tongues. I was like, this is one of the craziest things I've tried. So I started groaning away thinking I'll just make some sounds and then boom. I felt my right hand side of my body was really strong, incented. That it was Earthed and grounded, but my left hand side of my body was being pulled. It was being pulled and saying that, full, he, you're doubting that you're gonna get full healing. And it was also like my science brain was the enemy. So this is where I was starting to really delve into, wade into deeper waters in terms of faith of thinking about spiritual warfare. And I'd been a bit like, yeah, it's a bit, a little bit wacky for me, but then I fully experienced spiritual warfare in my body. And it was really uncomfortable. I was breathing through it for a couple of minutes. I was breathing really heavily and fast. I was sweaty, my heart was pounding. And it was, I wanted to open my eyes. I wanted to get out of it, but I knew I just needed to keep breathing through this process and keep broing and just, and I felt my body just calm. Come into one I felt, my left hand side become joined with my right hand side and be whole and firm and you were going for full healing. So that was pretty wacky. So that was a quite a funny, that was 10 o'clock at night, Friday night. Would've been a pretty funny message for you to like next morning, guess what happened. But yeah. Was it was, yeah. So I got the scan result a week later and can I talk about it from my perspective? Yes. Go. So meeting with the oncologist on the Thursday and Yeah. Okay. Thursday's the day for Eve. And I know so many of your friends were thinking that your family and other people on your team, we knew that the scan was coming and it was building up Thursday. I knew it was in the afternoon. Was at four o'clock. Yep. Four o'clock that afternoon. And I knew you were gonna get in touch with me afterwards and I was round at my parents' house with the kids and kept checking my phone, didn't see anything come through. And then I think it was about five o'clock ping. I see an audio message about two minutes long and I'm wondering, I dunno what that means. I dunno if that's good or it's bad. Anyway, I say to Ben and I'm like, okay, can you just manage the kids down here? I'm gonna shoot upstairs and I'm just gonna, I need to listen to this voice note. So I go upstairs and I take a deep breath and I listen to probably the first three seconds of the message. And I knew from the sound in your voice exactly what that scan result was. Yeah. Yeah. Essentially I did, I received full healing after three rounds of chemo. And it was so funny'cause my very practical oncologist, like being an oncologist must be the most worst job you could imagine. She's great at it for having a crappy job. They have to be pretty blunt with people. But she said, oh, started off your result was great. And I was think, okay, your vision of great is not my vision of great. She's but before we go into the scan result, how are you? And we talked through my son, like I was getting quite sore feet and a few things else were happening, she said, so back to the scan result. So she talked me through and she showed us the scan images. So this is on teams and she was talking through the tumors. She said you had, I didn't really realize how many tumors I had or how big they were which was nice. So I had two tumors in my neck. They were three centimeters each. This was from the last scan, from the previous scan end of February. So big tremors. They were down to one centimeter each, which is a normal lymph node size, so no tumor. I had two tumors in my midsection in my abdomen, which are 16 millimeters each, which are down to now 11 millimeters each, which is it's a normal lymph node size, but slightly on the bigger size, but still would be considered an okay. I had two spots of cancer in my liver. They're totally gone. And my biggest tumor was four centimeters and that was beside my liver. And yeah, the radiologist missed it on their report because it had gone from a four centimeter tumor down to a tiny sliver. And I'm pretty sure now that I've done round four of chemo and the fast that my bo it'll be gone. It'll be toast. Yeah. I was like writing and she was saying all this. I was just being very like, methodical writing down all the tumors and the reduction in size. And I was like, got to the end of it. I was like, oh. So it wasn't just a great result, it was the result I wanted and was such an amazing feeling. It was just funny because I knew I was gonna receive it. But it was just so beautiful. Like it wasn't a surprise, it was just like, oh, thank goodness. But it was so amazing. Like my mom and dad, I've actually failed to tell them that I was getting the result that day. So they're often holidays. So I, they're often the back blocks and gson somewhere. I was like, why are you not available up past four to receive this news? So I had to phone my grandparents and tell them and my siblings and eventually got hold of mom and dad and they were just like, yeah, mom was sobbing. Dad had big chin wobble. Yeah. It was just beautiful. I think for everyone. I've just got most amazing family. So many incredible friends. Like huge support network. Yes. Who've really been on the ride with me. And just theater is like delight. It's been, it was just, it was so cool. But the thing, the highlight of that day for me was I pull, so you've given me three courses with you, two like intentions packs of cards where you can pull an intention each day out of, and so that night I pulled, I was like, I went to pull it a card out of each pack. And I thought, wouldn't it be funny if I get, oh, actually that was the other thing Jenny had received that I should be encouraged. Yes. And she was been praying in tongues and I pulled out courage that night at the pack, which was all again, what I received in my soso. And then, yeah, it was like, okay, this was, that was the pace that I was really excited about. But four more, few more paces just around this like Jenny had received that I was. God was whispering to me and it wasn't until I got the full healing that I really started to see how he'd been whispering to me. I got my period the day before round three of chemo. Like I hadn't had it for a few months'cause I was underweight, fasting fast. Doing chemo tends to deal you just cycle that sorts that stuff out. I was like, okay. And I'd been nudged to make my Instagram public for some reason I'm quite, wasn't quite private and was quite professional in how I've used social media. I made it public and that felt like quite a big leap of faith and courage. Absolutely. So what happened a week after this result with amazing scan result is I received a box in the mail. And I opened it up and it was from Madison Cult of Fine Arts. And like I'm her biggest fan. Like I love her Instagram. It's so wholesome. She's got beautiful children and gardened and home and her art's. Awesome. And I just really like how she is she's so authentic and just herself, she's a Canadian lady. And I had replied to one of her Instagram posts, so she's had a question box and I had just said, thank you for sharing all your wholesome content. I'm loving it. It's just that we joy every day going through chemo and it very much is and so she's somehow tracked me down. I don't know her at all. We have one vague connection and that George went and worked at a hunting, did hunting guiding a couple years ago and ended up working on her family's old outfitters and met her dad. And her dad had asked George, oh, do you know my daughter? She lives in South Canterbury, George being from North Canterbury. And George said, oh, I don't think so. And then George said, oh, hang on, is she the artist? And her dad was just like, so stoked. Like he was this 30-year-old, hunting, fishing, farming bloke who knew his daughter was in New Zealand and she was an artist. And it's because I'd always shown George her beautiful content. Yeah. We used to think it was pretty cute. So anyway, I received this amazing box of, just out of the blue she'd found out where I live somehow. Easy to do in New Zealand. Yeah. And sent me this really generous box of like her beautiful products. Yes. And in that moment I was like, wow, what, just a big act of kindness. And I had been praying into God, you'll send me the perfect people and the perfect timing and the next step will, yes. Will come forward and. And I just felt that was the time I needed to start using Instagram. I needed to start sharing the story. I needed to be public on Instagram more. And yeah, I actually, I did a, posted a story thanking her for her gift sharing a little bit of my great news and inviting people to come into my space, into my page to hear about what I've been doing. And it's just felt like a big step, but it's felt really right. This is where I've been nudged to go. And yes, she was the perfect person in that moment because I just really like how she is, I really enjoy her community. And that is lots of farming woman. Yes. And it was just felt like a safe place to share into, and that was the starting point. So I'm super excited to see where that goes. The other perfect thing that happened was, again, perfect, praying into perfect people, perfect timing. Like five days after my great scan result, I had messaged in New Zealand, had a flight sale. And I love going to the airport. I really wanted to fly somewhere and so I messaged my cousin being like, Hey, can I come down and see you for a weekend in Queenstown in September? She's oh, I'm a busy. I was like, oh, that's all good. Thinking of going to the Gold Coast in August to go to the Zander McDonald Conference. I've got some flight credit and I've still got a conference ticket. I might go have a we holiday on the Sunshine Coast afterwards. Would you be up for that? And she's also had a bit of a shitter of a year and she came back to me, yes, I'll be there. Should we take her mothers? So within 24 hours, the four of us mothers included, had booked flights to Australia, we'd Airbnb booked and we're just going to eat, read, sleep rest, and just have a beautiful time together. That beautiful time together. And it's gonna be, I'm so looking forward to it. I think it's so important when you're going through chemo mode, have something to look forward to and I think it's part of just moving forward, having purpose. What are you going. Looking forward to, but Absolutely. Yeah. What are you thinking now? Just as we come to a close, what's next steps for you? I'd love to leave a link to your Instagram below so people can find out about that and learn more about, what you're doing and perhaps pass it on to other people who are working through Yeah. A cancer journey. But what's ahead, we've had this like amazing scan result. Yeah. Which has just been so incredible. Yeah. It's moved me so much, and I think I think it will be doing the same for people who are listening to this. Who, and one of the things I said to you was, it's easy to have faith and to share about your faith once you've got the result and you're looking back. And one of the things I really admire about you is that you were willing to share your story in February, March, whenever we recorded that. Before you had the result. Before you had the confirmation, you. Stepped out in faith and said, this is what I'm aiming for, this is what I'm shooting for. And I think that takes so much courage and faith in the absence of the physical evidence to say, this is what I'm going for. So I really wanna acknowledge you for that. That is, thank you. So incredible. And I just love that we were able to record that and take people on a bit of a journey to where you are now. So what's ahead for you? What are you looking ahead to? I think also, I just wanna say that like I'm not in the clear yet by Western medicine. I still think I'm gonna die, but I think it's, I have total faith. I'm gonna be fine. I'm done with cancer, I'm done with chemo. I'm gonna do my two more rounds. I'm not gonna bother doing round seven and eight which I didn't know were a thing, but I think six is gonna be enough. I'm sorted. Yeah, I'm happy with six. And I think from there it's. It's gonna take quite a while, a few months definitely for my body to just heal and recover. Yeah, totally. I've managed to put five kilograms on in the last two and a half weeks, which is a big effort. Yes. So I think just keep getting fitter and healthier and just, my body still is gonna need my immune system's really low and just need to really keep healing. The work hasn't finished. Yes, I've got this result, but I'm gonna still be doing a monthly fast. I'm still gonna be hyperfocused on what I'm doing, but I'll be able to just have a little bit more ease and relax a little bit into it. Now I feel that already I'm like, oh, like it's, I feel like I've done the mountain. But I think, yeah, having a holiday to look forward to it, I'm really excited to see where this Instagram goes. I'm already getting lots of beautiful messages from people who just being encouraged by it. And I'm, I've drafted lots of content already, so just run, be able to provide some really good. Science and information, and Patterson is checking everything for me. So I'm not doing this by myself. This is, we're a team, there's a team behind me, and we want to really help influence the health comes for cancer patients in New Zealand or elsewhere in the world. And to prevent cancer. That's the other piece. But I've, yeah, I booked the Milford Track last week. I've also booked the papa, so I've got a couple great walks to do. I'd love to get back to work ease back into that. And if, like further down the track, like maybe later in the year I need to work, talk to work and work all that out. But I've been so blessed to have income insurance, amazing employer who are just out the gate. Awesome. I love my job. I've got a great company I work for. I love the people I work with, so I'd really like to get back to that. But ultimately I just, yeah. Heal and help others and, just. Get a good garden going for the summer. Yeah. It's to look forward to and I think I'm just really praying into God will just continue to open doors and the perfect timing, the right people will show up and I'll just be guided and what's the next piece? And I don't need to have the plan at all, but Yeah. Yeah. Really needs, need to be focused on maintaining boundaries. I can't go back to being on three committees and working full time and Yes. Buying all the things, zooming a load place. My old pace of life. I will never be able to go back to that. There'll be lessons that I'll take with me for life, but I'm really excited and I'm already have been able to provide some hope. I know one-on-one to one or two people. Yes. And that means a lot. So it makes it all worth it. Yeah. And someone else can have hope. And I think. Going back to our our thoughts earlier in the episode that God works all things for the good of those who love him, I think is the scripture. And he is working good out of this. Yeah, it's an awful situation to find yourself in, but look at what God is doing that he is redeeming the story for you and that he's going to bring and is bringing hope and encouragement to other people through your story. So yeah. And I think he's also, through sharing it on Instagram, it's his way of helping me process it.'cause I remember saying to you a few weeks ago, I was like, I think I've wanna get through this and possibly have put a PSD or a quite a lot, bit like a lot of a whole other emotions to process. Yeah. Around.'cause I haven't been angry. I haven't really cried. I haven't had a pity party. I would say 90% of the conversations we have are positive and I think people would probably be quite shocked by that.'cause in a session together, that would be a space where you could. Be, and you are totally honest. You are. Yeah. You get the full wave. Yeah. I'm a po as a positive person already. Yeah. That's just the way I'm wired. But but the faith piece has just brought so much peace and joy and been able to fully surrender. And I've just had, I've really been on an accelerated course of faith. Yeah. Massive. I'm not believing in God in October. Yeah. So now I'm like he put his hand on my back the night I was told I was incurable. He turned up in my soso, probably got lifted out of my chair. He brought all these people onto your path. Always people. And then that's that, the week before my scan result, that spiritual warfare I really experienced firsthand, God people go through their whole lives with never really having a lot of receive, like really receiving Yeah. Strongly in the way that I have. So that I'm very grateful. But I think it's often when you're in a place of trauma or real helplessness Yes. Hopelessness that you fully surrender and in that patience you receive. And faith has developed. So I think, oh, like I've thanked every day God for this cancer. I've never begrudged the cancer. I've thanked it, I've loved it. Love my body. And that's a big part of healing is just Wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah's important. That's incredible. We talked earlier as well. You've experienced so much of God moving in your life because you've been willing to surrender. Yes. There is such a limit, I think, to what God can do if we are still holding on tight thinking that we've got all the answers, that we are gonna solve it in our own strength and we'll make it happen. Yeah. He never asked us to do it in our own strength. In fact, he wants us to be surrendered. I always think about open hands in an open heart when we can have that sort of a posture as we move through life. That's when we experience so much of God's presence, his power, and him moving in our lives. And I think we just live in such a me society now. We, we are just told girls can do everything. You can do everything, but it's all about you do it on your own strength, you work hard, you'll get the result. Yeah. That's, i's definitely come through with being brought up with that mindset. And, but it's hard. It's heavy. There's, we as humans, we are spiritual, energetic creatures. We are light and energy. And we have got limits. We've got limits. And I think we are actually just, we're designed to believe in something bigger. Whatever you believe in, we are designed to hand over and believe in something. Bigger. Yeah. But that's part of us as animals. Where we are. Yeah. So anyway, we can explore that topic more. Yes. When we do a live event in Christchurch at the end of July. Yes. So we'll have some more details coming for you soon on that. And if you wanna register for it, there'll be a link below, if you wanna register your interest for it, then you can do that below. And then we'll be sending out more information to people who are registered, have registered their interest. There'll be information coming out on email about that. And we'll also share it in the places that we are too. Yeah. And even if you're not in Christchurch, if you keen to gauge more, we can. Yeah. We'll just. We're keen just to see who wants to chat. Yeah. Have a chat and unpack more of this stuff together. So that's something that we are both really looking forward about. We're looking, we're really excited. Excited. We're gonna be some planning Excited. Yeah. About this over lunch, which we should be at the cafe right now. Right now. So we better go. We better go. We better go. We better wrap this up. But anyway, thank you for being here again, for being so generous in the way that you've shared, and I'm just so proud of you for everything that you've walked through. Makes me feel emotional. I know I'm gonna cry. I'm choking on my something. Yeah. I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of your courage. I'm so proud of your faith, and I just can't wait to see what God's gonna do from here through your life, because I know he's going to use this in an incredible way, not just for you, but for so many other people as well. I think he's using both of us together. Annabell, you've been my angel and. Yeah, I'm really excited to see where this all goes. I know we are, we're here just here for the ride really, aren't we? We're hang on. Alright, thank you. Okay. We'll just close out for it with a prayer and we just, Lord, we just thank you for we thank you for this ability to have this conversation. Lord, we thank you for the people who are listening to this. So we've made it all the way to the end. Lord. I just thank you for just the incredible thing that you're doing in Eve's life and the incredible result that she's received from the scan Lord. And we just know that you are faithful to complete what you've started and we are just believing and declaring you're gonna carry Eve all the way to the end and to full remission. And Lord, I just ask if there's anyone who's listening to this Lord, who's fearing, feeling discouraged in any way, whether it be about their health or something else in their life where they feel there isn't a way. I just pray, Lord, that you would come and you would remove. Barriers, you would remove obstacles. And I pray for just a fresh touch from you, Lord God, that you would come and give them encouragement. You would bring people onto their path, Lord, that can speak into their situation, that can help them and support them. And I just pray, Lord, that you would just come and bless every single person who's under the sound of my voice, that you would make a way wherever they're feeling stuck, Lord, that you would make a way, you would remove barriers and obstacles and you would bless them on their path. So we just ask for a blessing over this episode. We pray that you would send it far and wide, Lord, and use it to be an encouragement for other people and to build their faith. In Jesus' name, oh man. Hallelujah. Thank you so much for listening. We would love to hear your feedback on this episode, and you can share that with us, uh, by using my contact information below, which is in the description of this episode. If you know someone who needs encouragement, please share this episode with them. Take a moment to browse through the podcast feed, see what other conversations, what other episodes might be helpful for you. 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